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Today, when I picked up Famitracker, I found myself face-to-face with the same problem for the millionth time. It makes tracking very frustrating, and I'm finally fed up with it.
In short, when I press the keyboard following keyboard keys...
Q W E R T Y U I O P [ ]
A S D F G H J K L ; '
Z X C V B N M , . /
I get the following notes:
C C# D D# E F F# G G# A B A#
C C# D D# E F F# G G# Nothing A#
C C# D D# E F F# G G# B
The top row has B and A# swapped, the middle row skips G and the bottom row skips A and A#. This makes tracking very hard because in order to hit these notes, I have to manually transpose them with (ctrl + F1/F2). OpenMPT doesn't give me this problem, so why does Famitracker?
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Well, the keyboard is definitely not supposed to be acting like [i]that[/i]....
Is each row producing the same or different octave notes?
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The top and middle rows are all the same octave, but the bottom row jumps down an octave at the end, like so...
(Octave is set to 3)
Z X C V B N M , . /
C5 C#5 D5 D#5 E5 F5 F#5 G5 G#5 B4
EDIT:
If it helps, my keyboard is a [url=http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac232/wintersweet220/laptopkeyboard/Lenovo_f_k5819_zps639a9403.jpg]Levono MU-1153. I'm fairly certain this was a problem with my laptop, too, but this might help nevertheless.
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The layout is probably the culprit, not the physical keyboard itself. Famitracker is designed to be used with the US English keyboard layout; if that's not what you're using, please give that a shot and report back.
Stratelier: Famitracker gives you a choice between three different input styles; OP is using ModPlug style.
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I went into "Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Language\Language options\Input method" and saw that my Input method was already set to US. I tried "United States - International" just for the heck of it, and I saw no change.
I'm convinced this is just a simple mapping mistake in Famitracker, with the wrong keys being assigned for the ModPlug tracker edit style. Again, my keyboard works absolutely fine in OpenMPT which I have open right now.
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For reference, in OpenMPT I get the following results:
Q W E R T Y U I O P [ ]
A S D F G H J K L ; '
Z X C V B N M , . /
C C# D D# E F F# G G# A A# B
C C# D D# E F F# G G# A A#
C C# D D# E F F# G G# A
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[quote=jrlepage]Stratelier: Famitracker gives you a choice between three different input styles; OP is using ModPlug style.[/quote]
Intriguing ... if I set my FT input configuration to "ModPlug tracker" I get basically the same behavior as OP, and I most definitely have a US keyboard layout.
I do spot a related bug, though: Using either FastTracker or Impulse 2 options (I seriously can't tell the difference between them at this point), the QWERTY row produces CDEFG... on the high octave, however, the [ and ] keys produce F# and F (in that order). Shouldn't it be F and G?
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Stratelier: The difference between the FastTracker and ImpulseTracker 2 modes is the behaviour of the note-on/note-off commands. FT mode cuts the note as you release the key; IT2 doesn't (so you have to press the note-cut key manually, or the F12 key).
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I still eagerly await a more user-friendly Famitracker. This is a problem I've faced for months and I'm glad to finally be getting it out of the way. :D
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I've checked it now, and it works find on my keyboard layout so I need to figure out a way to make it universal. I do not know how to do that yet.
But if OpenMPT is sufficient for you (i.e you don't need the NSF export feature) then I recommend using that instead, it'll likely give you less trouble.
I have the same layout issue. I'm using the regular US English keyboard and ModPlug key layout. I've noticed that the ` key to the left of the 1 key actually plays A, the A that ; is supposed to play. Also / plays B in the octave of the second row.
The source seems to be hardcoded to use the Swedish layout but I'm sure you knew that given your last post!
