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my first song, a cover of Lady Gaga Posted: 2010-06-22 06:00 Reply | Quote
LockeNES



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Hey guys, I made a cover of Lady Gaga's Poker Face for a project I'm doing. It's not the whole song, and it has to be kind of short because for the project it can't be too long and it has to loop.

Tell me what you think.

http://rapidshare.com/files/401532767/poker8.ftm.html

Posted: 2010-06-22 06:59  (Last Edited: 2010-06-22 08:12) Reply | Quote
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You can upload the file here directly. There is no need to use something like Rapidshare.
Anyway... sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry.

[quote=Spoiler][color=#2c2c2c] Zero volume control
+Zero Square 2 note (except some unused patterns)
+Zero DPCM sample (there are many veterans who don't use this channel, but this song sounds too hollow now)
+Zero effect
+Zero use of duty settings

=????. I think that is enough self-explanatory.

This song needs a lot of work. Also if this is the first song you have ever created in FamiTracker, sorry again, just don't post it. First covers are usually unpleasant to hear.[/quote]
Highlight the entire spoiler.

Posted: 2010-06-23 04:07 Reply | Quote
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#6681
what does all that stuff mean? and i didnt use square 2 because, well, it sounded worse with it.

Posted: 2010-06-23 04:26 Reply | Quote
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...What-?

What did you try to do with the Square 2 then?

Also: Volume control would be raising and lowering the volume on pattern, there's a column made specially for that.
DPCM sampling means uploading a sample for direct use, it's a pretty complicated thing and not entirely needed.
Effects are the life of the tracker, they're triggered by special alphanumeric commands in the rightmost section of the pattern column.
Duty settings are "exclusive" to the square channels, changing the setting makes the instrument sound different.

You know, if you're confused or need to actually check things out in action to understand them, you should give the Wiki a quick read, it should sort out any problem. If that's not enough, well, there are a few example files around iirc

Posted: 2010-06-23 04:48 Reply | Quote
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Now, now, guys.

I know for a fact that nicetas_c didn't mean any real offense to you (even if his spoiler wasn't worded exactly as you'd expect).

What nicetas_c's trying to say is that there's plenty of room for work. Namely, he suggested using square channel 2 for an accompaniment, DPCM samples to accentuate your noise channel with drum/cymbal beats & the use of sound effects.

I think it's a solid tune in square channel 1 & a decent beat using the noise channel, but I'll give a couple of my suggestions:

1. You have 6 frames, each with 64 rows & a speed of 120 beats per minute. It may be easier for you to cut each frame into 2 pieces & space the notes out by one note. Then, increase your speed to 130 beats per minute. In other words, use 12 frames, 64 rows & 130 tempo.

(Don't worry; I also have issues following up with this note-spacing & management technique.)

2. Take all your notes in square channel 1 & look for the lower-octave notes (the notes that use a x-3 00). Then, simply shift those lower-octave notes over onto square channel 2. That way, you may be encouraged to use the lower-octave notes to continue an accompaniment theme, while you can use the empty space in square channel one for volume fades.

3. (This is a technique that I learned from nicetas_c, tadpole & Rushjet1) in large, empty spaces in square channel 1 (where the lower-octave notes were,) use the A01 effect to create a volume fade. You may have to play around with the positioning of this effect to get a suitable fade. To bring the volume of the song back to normal, add an F after your note's x-4 00 & add an A00 effect. So, it might look like this:

x-4 00 - ---
--- - ---
--- - A01
--- - ---
y-4 00 F A00

This is only a start. I hope this is helpful. But again, you'd have to follow up on other changes, too.

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Posted: 2010-06-24 03:39 Reply | Quote
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Well, I still don't understand any of that...maybe I should explain myself better.

All I know how to do is put notes in, change octaves, add instruments, and adjust the song settings.

It took me forever to figure out that I needed to use the keyboard to put in the notes, frantically clicking and getting mad because I can't enter notes in.

I know the first column in the tracker is the note, and the second one is the instrument. That's all I know, the rest I don't know what they do. So that's why those are blank, I guess that's what you're talking about right?

And yeah, I did have a suspicion I was doing something wrong. Everything I put in the tracker sounds the same, and doesn't sound anything I've heard from NES games.

I looked at the wiki, but I didn't really understand it either...maybe a beginner's introduction and everything will help me out more.

Thanks.

Posted: 2010-06-24 05:03 Reply | Quote
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Not sure if this will help you or not, but I made a quick five part tutorial that breaks down some of the more intricate parts of the tracker. Part 3 goes over note effect, as nicetas_c mentioned earlier. Please let me know if it helps you to understand anything better, or if you have any questions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwNElW5IEo0

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Posted: 2010-06-24 05:11 Reply | Quote
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Offtopic, but I can't seem to get FamiTracker and Audacity be active at the same time. Whenever I do something with Audacity, the computer resets itself.

Also as a sidenote: Only one effect amongst 0xy, 1xx, 2xx, 3xx, Hxy, Ixy, Qxy and Rxy can be executed at any time.
Another sidenote: When multiple effects above are used in one row, fx4 has the highest priority while fx1 has the lowest.

Posted: 2010-06-24 05:13 Reply | Quote
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That's interesting to know...

I didn't even know that.

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Posted: 2010-06-24 18:24 Reply | Quote
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[quote=nicetas_c]Also as a sidenote: Only one effect amongst 0xy, 1xx, 2xx, 3xx, Hxy, Ixy, Qxy and Rxy can be executed at any time.[/quote]

I'm kinda confused about this line. Does this mean:

A) That you can't use any one of those effects simultaneously in several channels, or
B) That you can't use any 2 or more of those effects at the same time... or even
C) All of the above?

Posted: 2010-06-24 19:35  (Last Edited: 2010-06-24 19:36) Reply | Quote
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All it means is that for one channel, on a single note you cannot use (as an example) Qxy and Rxy simultaneously. Those both have pitch-altering effects (one slides up, the other slides down) and it's not possible to accomplish both at the same time, so it'll just take the effect farthest to the right.

Posted: 2010-06-25 01:35 Reply | Quote
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#6711
Oh. Thanks.

RE: my first song, a cover of Lady Gaga Posted: 2010-06-25 11:01 Reply | Quote
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Thanks for the video. I'll try to play around with the tracker some more.

Posted: 2010-06-26 03:48 Reply | Quote
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And one more thing; don't worry about how criticisms may be worded on this forum. They're usually meant to be constructive. And if you're a beginner, don't let this discourage you from doing what you want.

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