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Would you want this?
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No
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Why not?
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Cool Idea Posted: 2015-02-09 19:47 Reply | Quote
Bass92BOY

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#65574
I got a great idea for Famitracker! That you could add as much channels as you want. Like you could have 6 pulses, 3 dpcms, 0 noises, 3 sawtoothes (or sawteeth hehe) this would add so much more possibilities and stuff like multiple chords and other stuff! It would be great! What do u think?

Posted: 2015-02-09 19:53 Reply | Quote
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#65576
Ehm, then use an other tracker than famitracker . This tracker is to make music for the famicom.

Posted: 2015-02-09 20:02 Reply | Quote
Alexander283

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#65577
Exactly - if you want a tracker that is capable of MIDI-Like tracking (all the channels and sounds you desire), use something along the lines of OpenMPT. The Famitracker only provides a way (or should I say - the best way ^^) to make music using the Famicom/NES. The hardware is built around a specific arrangement of channels (2 Pulses, 1 Triangle, 1 Noise, 1 7-Bit DPCM) and can be expanded by external devices that were used in game cartridges.

The closest expansion to what you desire is the Namco N163, but that has it's own, hardware-tied problems, too, like wave memory management or hissing sounds with 7 or 8 channels.

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Posted: 2015-02-09 20:39 Reply | Quote
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#65578
This has been mentioned/requested many times and the answer has always been no.

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Posted: 2015-02-09 20:56 Reply | Quote
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#65579
If you can get authentic NES sounds out of a sample-based tracker, I'll eat my foot.

I think there is definitely a place for a chip/fakebit tracker based on realistic hardware but with relaxed limitations. Famitracker seems like a perfect jumping-off point for such a thing, but I guess it'd have to be developed as a separate project.

Posted: 2015-02-09 21:41  (Last Edited: 2015-02-09 21:42) Reply | Quote
Alexander283

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And again: Go to OpenMPT or something, use Famitracker outputs (like a pulse channel sample) as waveforms and then live happily ever after. Famitracker is running with NES limitations and it's very true to the original.

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Posted: 2015-02-09 21:47 Reply | Quote
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[quote=jfbillingsley]Famitracker seems like a perfect jumping-off point for such a thing, but I guess it'd have to be developed as a separate project.[/quote]

Posted: 2015-02-09 22:25 Reply | Quote
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#65588
No. Please go away

Posted: 2015-02-09 22:28 Reply | Quote
jfbillingsley

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Why is everyone so damn confrontational about this, anyway?

Posted: 2015-02-09 23:04 Reply | Quote
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[quote=jfbillingsley]Why is everyone so damn confrontational about this, anyway?[/quote]
Word. I suspect that it's because it gets asked a lot, despite jsr's clear stance on authenticity and adherence to the NSF specification. But I would fully support such a project — just not as a feature of FT as we know it.

Posted: 2015-02-09 23:06  (Last Edited: 2015-02-09 23:07) Reply | Quote
Alexander283

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You might not have read the title of this piece of software. "FamiTracker" is a combination of the Words "Famicom" (or "Family Computer" ) and "Tracker". This means that this program is designed and meant to produce music in an as exact as possible way as the Nintendo Family Computer (or Nintendo Entertainment System in Europe and America).

Of course, you may deviate from this and create a new tracker working in a completely different way and just use the design and interface of Famitracker. But that would be a "FakeBit"-Tracker. Might as well change to "GXSCC" if you want to have a lazy way of making MIDIs 8-Bit-ish.

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Posted: 2015-02-09 23:34 Reply | Quote
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[quote=Alexander283]Of course, you may deviate from this and create a new tracker working in a completely different way and just use the design and interface of Famitracker. But that would be a "FakeBit"-Tracker.[/quote]

Which is what I suggested. Chill out!

[quote=Alexander283]Might as well change to "GXSCC" if you want to have a lazy way of making MIDIs 8-Bit-ish.[/quote]

That isn't at all what's being suggested here. :P

Posted: 2015-02-10 00:02  (Last Edited: 2015-02-10 00:04) Reply | Quote
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People are confrontational about it because this has been asked many, many times, often by new users who aren't aware that other trackers exist and also that Famitracker is a Famicom tracker developed [i]by one person[/i]. Invariably, if the discussion is framed as a Famitracker request, then it very quickly becomes discussion irrelevant to Famitracker (as seen here).

No, drama isn't necessary to get a point across, but this type of situation does become rather tedious after awhile.

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Posted: 2015-02-10 00:17  (Last Edited: 2015-02-10 00:18) Reply | Quote
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#65600
This suggestion appears from time to time, but the goal with famitracker is not really authentic audio emulation (or similar), but to get music that are actually playable on the real hardware.

If this is not desired, then another tracker/DAW really is the way to go, in my opinion. I don't think anyone would complain about authenticity when using [url=http://www.plogue.com/products/chipsounds/]chipsounds for example. There even are excellent sounding NES songs made in sample based trackers as well (virt's FX albums being one example).

Sure it would be possible to use famitracker as a base for a new tracker with expanded features, but then it would require someone to actually make that (while other trackers are available for use right now). And even then, perhaps it would make sense to use a more feature-full tracker as a base instead (such as Modplug).

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Posted: 2015-02-10 00:21 Reply | Quote
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[quote=cak]People are confrontational about it because this has been asked many, many times, often by new users who aren't aware that other trackers exist and also that Famitracker is a Famicom tracker developed [i]by one person[/i]. Invariably, if the discussion is framed as a Famitracker request, then it very quickly becomes discussion irrelevant to Famitracker (as seen here).[/quote]
Perhaps it's a good idea to add some links to other trackers, to the FAQ section maybe?

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