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FamiTracker
I'm here because of Anamanaguchi and the inspiring works of danooct1
( his great song "instant crush",rushjet1,jrlepage(cool "creepy rag" song),necrophageon among others, i don't know if they are on this forum but if they are, thank you for the music and also JSR for making this great software and all the people that are giving great advices on this forum.
That said,i've been using Famitracker for 3 weeks now, enjoying and discovering the possibilities step by step, this is quite addictive !
I'm posting this small first songs.
" A Spritez in da hoodz : being in the backround is a bitch" (hope the title's ok for the forum ) is about what could "possibly" going on in the mind of a gloomy,confused and bored sprite in the background of an LJN game...or Color Dreams, don't know wich one's worse.
"A New story" would be for the end of a cute rpg game where the pages of a book goes on and on and end with birds flying and pink rabbits running and everybody's smiling.
PS : i'm french so i'll try my best to write as good as i can.
Spritez is rather terrible but I know what you were going for. It still has something going on in there, instead of being just random notes, so I'd say you did well in capturing the essence of that kind of song.
A new story is better. I think the pulses are a bit too loud but I can't really tell since I'm listening on crappy laptop speakers. The mood is nice on this song.
Welcome to the forums! Posting FTMs is better sometimes, in case you wish more detailed criticism, but to me, NSF is fine.
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Yeah,agreed. spritez IS terrible i'm learning to use the noise channel and was caught in the possibilities other than making drums sounds, so i went with something around it. I blame the spritez confused mind
I was wondering if the triangle channel has anyway to be controlled in terms of volume or you have to adjust the other elements of a song to it or vice-versa ? I know it can only be on or off but is there any effects ? still a mystery to me..
I'll take your advice for the FTM, didn't think about it that way, but seems obvious now.
No, the triangle channel doesn't have volume control, but when you use DPCM, the volume of both triangle and noise channels goes down. You can use the Zxx effect to lower their volume (Z00 is loudest, while Z7F is quietest) but it's not a clean way to do so because it produces a loud pop.
Go to the tracker and place many Zxx effects on the DPCM channel (you must always put them there, or else they won't work) and you'll see how it creates many clicks while it lowers the volume of triangle and noise too.
Strange noise patterns are cool. It's nice to see songs that use noise for sound effects instead of just percussion, but you must make it sound good and not too loud.
So, try to always balance your songs around the triangle and DPCM channels and make everything as equally sounding as possible. You'll learn more about volume control as you practice with the tracker.
Posting FTMs is rather conventional here and it helps when someone wants to pinpoint the exact location of something within the song. Also, it helps when someone wants to edit them to show you how to do something or just to make them sound a bit better.
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[quote=Dr_Mustache]Spritez is rather terrible but I know what you were going for. It still has something going on in there, instead of being just random notes, so I'd say you did well in capturing the essence of that kind of song.
A new story is better. I think the pulses are a bit too loud but I can't really tell since I'm listening on crappy laptop speakers. The mood is nice on this song.
Welcome to the forums! Posting FTMs is better sometimes, in case you wish more detailed criticism, but to me, NSF is fine.[/quote]
Indeed it is too loud. The NSFPlay keyboard mode is good for stuff like this =D
By the way, nice second song. Not a big fan of the first one, but I took a look at it and it looks well done. I can't think of a way to make it better without totally changing it.
And welcome to the forums!
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"im going to continue making this crazy stuff then after a while my style will be so sick that you will be like damn suuun that shit is so sick i dont even get it. i will be like bro its ok.. you dont have to." -omgdonut
Salut, à toi. Bien content d'avoir pu être l'objet de l'inspiration d'un autre musicien.
Je ne sais pas trop quoi dire de Spritez, mais A New Story est très jolie, et colle à merveille à la description que tu en as fait. Beau travail !
Je seconde la recommandation de Dr_Mustache : c'est plus ou moins une règle non-écrite (ou une convention, si tu veux) d'attacher le FTM à ton post. Ça tombe un peu sous le sens, vu qu'après tout, on est la communauté officielle du tracker...
En tout cas, j'ai bien hâte de voir ce que tu posteras ensuite.
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en effet le morceau "Spritez" était un prétexte pour expérimenter avec les sons du canal "Noise", j'etais content de voir qu'on pouvait faire tout ces sons donc j'ai pas fais attention au reste, l'enthousiasme du debutant en fait.
En tout cas , merci pour les impressions.
Je vais poster les FTM à l'avenir, c'est noté.
I examined those FTMs a little and you seem to already handle a few effects pretty well, like Axy. I really suggest you avoid volumes that are too high, mostly when using expansions.
Why? When you use too high volumes, the whole mix gets a lot louder and it's unpleasant to listen to the song when there's not too much volume control. Using 2A03 alone, you can mix the whole thing a little louder because there are less channels, but when using expansions, it's important to keep everything at a quiet volume or else the mixing goes crazy and the song will sound bad.
Another thing you will always want to give attention to is to have more dynamism in the channels, in the sense of volume control. It can be disturbing to hear a note with flat volume for a few seconds, so to avoid this, you can fade them out slowly or add some vibrato, or you could also make a volume pattern that goes up and down constantly, so you won't have to listen to a plain note for too long.
I suggest that, for 2A03 alone, you keep the volume values somewhere between A and less (for the pulse and noise channels). But the most important thing, as I said in my previous post, is to mix everything around triangle and DPCM to make everything equally hearable.
You seem to handle the tracker pretty good already, so try to improve your skills! These songs deliver the feeling they were supposed to give so I'd say those are nice compositions.
[If you want to use and expansion, the MMC5 is a good one to start. It adds two pulse channels that are identical to the 2A03 ones]
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I don't think I need to emphasize the importance of volume control far too much because, quite frankly, I'd be beating the dead horse. Longer notes almost require a vibrato of sorts (a song I'm working on now has a slight vibrato on low volume channels; it was already okay enough, but that extra effort makes it worth while). Personally, I think 2A03 has too many limitations to make it stand out well, but a few people make it work. It's difficult, especially considering that the focus changes depending on whether or not you use expansions, WHICH expansion(s), and the general concept of the song and which part you want to stand out. Dr_Mustache above me mentioned the MMC5 chip--a basic expansion that most people getting into Famitracker can understand, but that's mostly because you don't have to do anything special to make it work. It's a gateway expansion for most people--a way to understand how it affects the work as a whole and a pathway to the VRC6 (my personal favorite chip, but most everybody that has heard my work knows that). I want to see more out of you. If this is what the product is in three weeks, I can safely say that you'll hone your skills and progress well.
Protip, however: Don't ask for me to teach you how to use the program. Here's a hint: 900 BPM (or Speed 1, whatever) isn't for beginners...I learned that the hard way... ^_^"
Protip 2: If it sounds like I'm being hard on your or mean, it's not meant to come out like that. I'm typically in a hurry trying to type so much that I might forget to reword something. Everything has to be an essay for me...
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Smogon, Famitracker, YouTube...
So many places, so little creativity left...
It's an endless stream of good advices, i'm currently making a workbook out of this .
It's gonna help me with working the volume parameter.and yeah,MMC5 seems interesting.
@paulMannIV : with such a detailed answer to this post,you can't be mean : )
Really appreciate the time you took to answer guys.
,rushjet1,jrlepage(cool "creepy rag" song),necrophageon among others, i don't know if they are on this forum but if they are, thank you for the music and also JSR for making this great software and all the people that are giving great advices on this forum.
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