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Use V02 pulse sound to make base Posted: 2014-04-01 16:45 Reply | Quote
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It's OK?
Octave 0,1,2
Sounds like MSX game base sound.

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Of course!

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I'm fond of the V01 sound myself, but it's your song. Play the tracker as you please!

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You can use any duty cycle for any of your square channels; it's your song &, if you feel it sounds good, use it.

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[quote=TechEmporium]You can use any duty cycle for any of your square channels; it's your song &, if you feel it sounds good, use it.[/quote]
I loaded MMC5's two pulse channels to make V02 pulse base sound.It's sounds good.But I used one MMC5 channel only,because one base sound is enough.

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MMC5 channels are for all intents and purposes identical to 2A03 pulses...

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[quote=jrlepage]MMC5 channels are for all intents and purposes identical to 2A03 pulses...[/quote]
Yes,I know it.Load MMC5,I can use 3 pulse channels to make music,the one is make for base sound.

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You can use the channels in any way you want, actually. You could even use 2 channels for the lead tune & the other 2 for the bass. Again, it's all a matter of taste; the only thing that can hold anyone back is their confidence in how much musical skill they have.

Vxx in 2A03 & MMC5 square channels typically go from 00 to 04; 00 means the square wave as a 12.5% duty cycle, 01 means 25% duty cycle, 02 means 50%, 03 means 75% (which is the same as 01, except inverted) & 04 is 87.5% (which is the same as 12.5%, except inverted).

The reason there are these inversions is so that you can play notes of similar duty cycles without them causing any volume/tone conflicts (unless that's your goal for certain parts of your song).

In the VRC6 expansion, Vxx goes from 00 to 07 & works differently (instead of controlling duty cycle, it controls pulse width).

Now, you don't even have to keep your square channels at any particular value; you can alternate between Vxx values in any way you want (like in my example). The important thing to remember when you do this is to control your volume levels for each channel & to control pitch when necessary (use the Pxx command to increase/decrease the pitch of an entire channel, or 4xx to add vibrato - increase & decrease the pitch automatically, in constant intervals).

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[quote=TechEmporium]You can use the channels in any way you want, actually. You could even use 2 channels for the lead tune & the other 2 for the bass. Again, it's all a matter of taste; the only thing that can hold anyone back is their confidence in how much musical skill they have.

Vxx in 2A03 & MMC5 square channels typically go from 00 to 04; 00 means the square wave as a 12.5% duty cycle, 01 means 25% duty cycle, 02 means 50%, 03 means 75% (which is the same as 01, except inverted) & 04 is 87.5% (which is the same as 12.5%, except inverted).

The reason there are these inversions is so that you can play notes of similar duty cycles without them causing any volume/tone conflicts (unless that's your goal for certain parts of your song).

In the VRC6 expansion, Vxx goes from 00 to 07 & works differently (instead of controlling duty cycle, it controls pulse width).

Now, you don't even have to keep your square channels at any particular value; you can alternate between Vxx values in any way you want (like in my example). The important thing to remember when you do this is to control your volume levels for each channel & to control pitch when necessary (use the Pxx command to increase/decrease the pitch of an entire channel, or 4xx to add vibrato - increase & decrease the pitch automatically, in constant intervals).[/quote]
THERE'S A V04???

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Nah, probably a typo. 2A03 & MMC5 squares only have four settings (V00 to V03).

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Oh. I was getting worried for a second, especially since he describes V04 "the same as 12.5%, except inverted". Phew.

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Oh. Well he's just wrong then. :p

The statement about duty cycle and pulse width being different things is also erroneous; they are two different names for the same concept.

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My mistake. Forgot that V04 just cycles back to V01. :P

I stand corrected.

Pulse width, by my understanding, isn't exactly the same as duty cycle (even though they are complementary to each other). Duty cycle's just a ratio of the wave's active time (a.k.a.: the pulse width) to the total period of one full wave. Naturally, changing one will change the other because their directly proportional to each other.

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It's always a ratio of the period when you're talking about a musical tone, otherwise the ratio would be getting larger as the frequency increases.

The "pulse width" of an oscillator could be a fixed length (e.g. 75 microseconds) or a ratio (25% of period) but the fixed length has no place in this context because it varies with the frequency of the oscillator.

The two terms are interchangeable here. (There are other meanings attached which could distinguish them in other contexts, just not here.)

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