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??? (VRC6) Posted: 2013-10-27 09:00  (Last Edited: 2013-10-27 09:00) Reply | Quote
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I started this song 9 days ago. 11/4 is haaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrd.

I can't come up with a name though. I need it to have a number in it, though, and it can't be one, two, or five. Because.


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Posted: 2013-10-27 16:05 Reply | Quote
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11/4 is a good name lol. As for the song, I can't say much. It's good, that much I can say. And also, I usually don't like V00, but the way you did it, I liked it. I can't say anything.

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Posted: 2013-10-27 20:09  (Last Edited: 2013-10-27 20:11) Reply | Quote
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Very nice! Guess what just got moved to my iPhone? ...

Really, guess.

lol, sersiously, though. Love this! I've never been good at anything besides 4/4 and 3/4, but I certainly enjoy music that isn't that. I love what you did with the sawtooth, too, it sounds GREAT.

As for the name, 11/4 does sound good. Either that, or the FTM name, three question marks. Either would sounds great, on my iPhone it'll be called "Three Ques?ion Marks", so there's ya an idea.

EDIT: The title I made looks better in iPhone font then the forum font, so...

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Posted: 2013-10-27 22:16 Reply | Quote
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#52021
I Love the odd time signature to this.

Posted: 2013-10-28 00:01 Reply | Quote
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Good as usual, though the time signature is weird as hell. That's still not something bad because it seems you knew how to compose well using this time signature.

I guess many are used to 4/4 or 3/4 or other more common time signatures, which is why listening to this feels weird in a way, but the song is pretty well done and I can already visualize the enormous challenge you must have went through when you did this.

I can't do anything but stick to 4/4 because all the melodies I can think of use that time signature, whether original ones or stuff from other people.

Also, noticed the DPCM bass in that section. It's cool since its sound differs a lot from the waveforms of the other channels and also gives more variety to the sound design.

Overall, nice and very different from other stuff I have heard lately.

Posted: 2013-10-28 00:14 Reply | Quote
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I can only really do 4/4 3/4 7/4 and 8/4 so this is really cool to hear.

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Posted: 2013-10-28 03:53  (Last Edited: 2013-10-28 03:53) Reply | Quote
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#52025
8/4 doesn't really exist though (it's just two measures of 4/4).

Great tune btw L77! I loved it.

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Posted: 2013-10-28 16:33 Reply | Quote
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[quote=CheeseGuy99]Very nice! Guess what just got moved to my iPhone? ...

Really, guess.
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Uh... everything?

And to all of you: Yay! I'm glad you guys liked it. Honestly, towards the end I was like "uh, like, no... uh... just do this part again!" It'll work!

I'm actually planning on going through and trying every single major time signature, and then putting them all in an album--Counting to One for 4/4, this for 11/4, etc. Pretty soon I'll be done with a 9/8 song.

By the way, added a fade in 1A. I guess the name ??? will stick, and it can take up the "title containing 3" spot.

Posted: 2013-10-28 16:52 Reply | Quote
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11/4?

Sorry, but Akumajou Densetsu beat you to that ^_^

In all seriousness, this was quite enjoyable.

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Posted: 2013-10-28 22:09  (Last Edited: 2013-10-28 22:11) Reply | Quote
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I like. You could name the file "Eleven Stroke Four" since strokes aren't usually accepted in file names.

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Posted: 2013-10-29 20:01  (Last Edited: 2013-10-29 20:03) Reply | Quote
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[quote=jrlepage]8/4 doesn't really exist though (it's just two measures of 4/4).[/quote]


I think I meant 4/8, and even then that doesn't make much sense to me.
Either way I have no idea what I typed that for.

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[quote=jrlepage]8/4 doesn't really exist though (it's just two measures of 4/4).[/quote]

Not true. There are many reasons where 8/4 would be appropriate instead of 4/4. For instance if you had a regular pattern emphasizing 3+3+2 quarter notes.

Posted: 2013-10-29 23:27  (Last Edited: 2013-10-29 23:39) Reply | Quote
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That would probably be notated 3/4 + 3/4 + 2/4 in most cases, though. :p

EDIT: I've never seen any piece of music with 8 beats in a single measure (I've seen fewer and more than 8, of course, but never exactly 8), though apparently the time signature [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_musical_works_in_unusual_time_signatures#8.2F4_or_8.2F8]does exist. It is considered "unusual", however; furthermore, most of the cases listed in that article only contain one bar (or a few of them) in that signature, while the rest is written in a different, more conventional time signature.

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No, it's not common, but it does have uses.

The reason that it's uncommon is that if an 8 beat pattern is divided into two groups of 4, 4/4 is generally sufficient for this, unless you really need to emphasize the 8-beat grouping. 8/4 is normally reserved for cases where the rhythm is not broken at the midpoint. 3+3+2 in quarter notes is a very uncommon rhythm. (3+3+2 in eighth notes, by comparison, is extremely common, and usually notated in 4/4.)

If someone wanted an alternative to 8/4, I think the next most sensible is to just write it in 4/4 and let the accents fall against the metre- it's quite common to see 4/4 used as a generic frame for everything. That doesn't mean it's the correct metre, just that it's sometimes a sensible notational choice.

Yes you could change metre every other bar if you want, and some do, but I think this is rather ugly. There are some other compound metre notations which are a little more succinct (e.g. you could write 3+3+2/4 instead of 8/4, or you could write 3/4+3/4+2/4 and optionally make every 1st and 2nd (of 3) barlines dotted. There's a bunch of options here.

There's possibly a distinction to be made between 8/4 as a metre and 8/4 as a notation, as well. The actual metre of a piece is often different than its notation (like what I said about 4/4).

The best book on this subject is Gardner Read's Music Notation, which I highly recommend. It doesn't have any comments specifically about 8/4 but it does very thoroughly discuss the idea of metre.

Read also lists about 10 examples of 8/4 metre, and funnily enough I don't think any of them are on that Wikipedia page, though it would be weird to expect anyone to have an exhaustive list of this kind of thing.

Posted: 2013-10-30 21:27  (Last Edited: 2013-10-30 21:28) Reply | Quote
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Great tune!
You really need to change your avatar on your Youtube channel, because that owl deserves it!

Hmm, I've never thought that Dëthkløk used different time signatures, interesting...

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