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Original Song(Life is a Game VRC7) Posted: 2013-07-26 02:41  (Last Edited: 2013-07-26 02:43) Reply | Quote
Thom

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I finally manged to cook something up after a while inactivity.

Please, review the song and tell me what flaws are in the song, stuff like pitch, length, chords etc.

I hope you may like it. If not, then tell me what you don't like about it.

The song is pretty short, so I'm not sure if it last long enough to convey the message. Heh, it's really hard for me to make anything last long enough.

*Edit*

Wrong song. LoL.


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Posted: 2013-07-26 03:57 Reply | Quote
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In true honesty I found the song displeasing to listen to. one of the major reasons for this is due to the lack of any base key in your song. If you don't have any musical experience I recommend you look up and learn about the basic key signatures. Knowing these will help you greatly in your musical compositions.

As for example:
If I'm planning out a song and I want it to be in the key of C then I know that the notes I want to use throughout the entire song would be C, D, E, F, G,
A, and B and that I don't want to use C#, D#, F#, G# or A# because they will tend to sound bad with the other notes.

Take a look at frame 0A in your song. If you notice you are playing both a G and a G#. If we base the song off a key signature then the realization can be made that since in this frame there is a F# C# and G# we could say that this song is in the key of A and thus a G would not go well with the other set of notes you have picked. The same idea can be recognized in frame 00. Not only did you use notes like D, D# and E together which would never fit into a key, your song further doesn't fit into any imaginable key when comparing Frames 00 and 0A.

If you don't know much behind the theory of music I recommend going online and learning some basic music theory like scales. While scales are not something composers are locked down to using; for a beginner I recommend sticking with them until you get comfortable with them.

Posted: 2013-07-26 04:17  (Last Edited: 2013-07-26 04:30) Reply | Quote
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Thank you! Thank you!

What I do notice with my of my songs is the lack of a true scale. Even through I've been playing trumpet for some time, I still don't know any scales beyond the standard C scale. I hope I can use your advice to help make my songs more listenable.

It's true I don't know much music theory, but I'll try to use the scales as a guide for improving my music.

I have another question, are most of the octaves at the end where for my instruments too close to each other, like, if I had too many bases for me to warrant?

Posted: 2013-07-26 08:44 Reply | Quote
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Thom; I know you can do much better than this, honestly.

I'm cool with the instruments you're using (they remind me of Shinobi 3 for the Sega Genesis,) but your lack of a solid base key makes this track horribly dissonant. That track sounds like you're going all over the place.

To be honest with you, though, at least you're getting the hang of discord in music; it's best used sparingly in songs where you want to convey a dark mood. But that all depends on the key you use as well.

I'd honestly recommend looking up music theory too, but I'd also recommend that you try to make covers os simple songs & gradually work your way up to more complex songs. You could also do little excercises that strictly use 2A03 (like my attachment); the more options people have sometimes, the more prone they are to overuse them (& I'm guilty of that too).

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RE: Original Song(Life is a Game VRC7) Posted: 2013-07-26 16:34  (Last Edited: 2013-07-26 16:36) Reply | Quote
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Yes, it's definitely at 0A and after that the song becomes a mess. You say you're a trumpet player? I've been playing clarinet for four years. You also said you only know the C scale, right? Well, let me tell you, as a fellow Bb instrument, we are a full step above C instruments (flutes, oboes, bassoons, trombones, euphoniums and tubas), what is called a second (when talking about thirds, fifths, whatever, you count the note you start on). So, our C [i]major[/i] scale is really the Bb [i]concert[/i] scale. (You know that it's only a half step between B and C & E and F, right? Just making sure.) Scales are the best things to learn when transposing (moving from one key to another): the C scale will always have no flats or sharps; the G scale will always have F#; the Eb scale will always have Bb, Eb and Ab. It just depends on the transposition of the instrument for which major scale to play. Most instruments are either in C (the ones I mentioned before), Bb (Bb clarinet, bass clarinet, trumpet, euphonium in treble clef, tenor sax, soprano sax), Eb which is a third below concert pitch (alto sax, bari sax, Eb alto clarinet (bigger than a bass clarinet), normal Eb clarinet (the tiny soprano clarinet), or F which is a fifth above concert pitch (French horn, English horn). The occasional A clarinet or something in another uncommon key has music written for it sometimes.

So, that was a lot of stuff to think about. What I would do is look up the twelve major scales (as opposed to the minor scales; not major/concert in this case) and learn them. Learn them on your trumpet. Just don't memorize only the muscle memory. Remember what sharps/flats are in each scale. It's easy to say "What's that? The F# scale? No problem!" and not use your brain while playing. It makes you better to retain the actual notes rather than just tootin' along.



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Posted: 2013-07-26 21:51 Reply | Quote
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... well, dissonance aside, better volume control, less sliding, and noise drums would all be improvements.

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Posted: 2013-07-30 21:32 Reply | Quote
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[quote=TechEmporium]Thom; I know you can do much better than this, honestly.

I'm cool with the instruments you're using (they remind me of Shinobi 3 for the Sega Genesis,) but your lack of a solid base key makes this track horribly dissonant. That track sounds like you're going all over the place.

To be honest with you, though, at least you're getting the hang of discord in music; it's best used sparingly in songs where you want to convey a dark mood. But that all depends on the key you use as well.

I'd honestly recommend looking up music theory too, but I'd also recommend that you try to make covers os simple songs & gradually work your way up to more complex songs. You could also do little excercises that strictly use 2A03 (like my attachment); the more options people have sometimes, the more prone they are to overuse them (& I'm guilty of that too).[/quote]

What is covers os? Thanks for anwser in advance.

Posted: 2013-07-30 21:43 Reply | Quote
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He meant "cover of", you pedantic biscuit. =P

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Posted: 2013-07-31 02:49  (Last Edited: 2013-07-31 02:50) Reply | Quote
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"pedantic"


Sorry, in English or German please. I don't speak Latin....



Just joking with ya.

Posted: 2013-08-10 19:18  (Last Edited: 2013-08-10 19:25) Reply | Quote
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Well, this song sounds more like a "escape" tune song or space-like. If you're trying to make this a happy song, it doesn't really sound like that. And also, like the other people said, this song lacks a little bit of base. The ending of the song sounds a lot different from the rest of it.

But at least you are trying, and I highly appreciate that. Don't worry, if you take a bit of time to look through some music theory, your music skills will improve.

EDIT: Also if you're trying to use drums, they're not so audible. I recommend you amplify the sample a little bit before you use it on the tracker.

Really, in my opinion, this song is alright to me. I mean, there are flaws, but it's okay.

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