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Songs and Stuff - JOEMAN23 Posted: 2013-04-20 00:06 Reply | Quote
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So I took Mr_Master's recommendation, and decided to make a single thread for my stuff(at least for now).

Now the songs I have been sharing with you guys are some of the first songs I have ever made at around the time when I got FamiTracker about a year ago. This song is my most recent work. I have put a ton of work into this song mainly because I did it all by ear. I know it's not perfect, but I put all I know about FamiTracker into this song which is why I came to the forums. To learn more about Famitracker, and so far you guys have really been helpful!

Now that my little speech is over, here is Treasure Trove Cove(Banjo-Kazooie). I hope you like it and am always open for suggestions




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Posted: 2013-04-20 00:24 Reply | Quote
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Here I come again. You made a nice improvement here. Seeing that you are now using volume macros is good, and they also made your cover sound nice. Just one complain: You made way too little use of the MMC5 expansion, and as a hint, it can do basically the same as the 2A03, except for hardware sweeps(Hxy and Ixy effects), so switching between channels wasn't necessary almost all the time. I still noticed you made use of it while 2A03 was full of notes, so that's good.

I'm glad you have made use of all of our advice and see you improve your skills. You are growing better every day, and you can be sure you will be very good over the course of some months or a year. You just have to practice.

Also, as another suggestion, if you need to share a high amount of FTMs, like 5 or so, try to put them in a single RAR file so we can have easier access to your tracks.

Lastly, try lowering the volume of 2A03 pulse 2 channel, since it sounds loud and drowns the melody in pulse 1. Also, the percussions are a bit quiet, so try raising the volume of the noise envelopes.

Keep up the good work! You are getting better!

Posted: 2013-04-20 01:01 Reply | Quote
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Thanks Mr_Master you rock! and to tell you the truth, I didn't even know that MMC5 changed it that much(as well as most of the other modules...). I just used it because I liked having more channels to work with.

Posted: 2013-04-20 01:09  (Last Edited: 2013-04-20 01:10) Reply | Quote
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LOL this sounds cool. Really tropical, too.

I believe that the MMC5 waveforms are reversed versus the 2A03 waves, but that doesn't make a big difference since they sound the same. This really only comes into play when you work with more complicated songs or you are making a multi-expansion song, which you shouldn't worry about just yet. [color=#333333](Also, MMC5 has another sample channel, which is not currently supported in Famitracker, or anything else. And props if you can see this =P)
I agree with Mr_Master in that you could have used the 2A03 pure for this, though. But really nice cover.

EDIT: Also, not a RAR! Please, no! Use a ZIP file! (because not everyone can open RARs)

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Posted: 2013-04-20 01:12 Reply | Quote
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ZIP file got it!

Posted: 2013-04-20 01:14 Reply | Quote
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Thanks!

[color=grey]And no, you didn't get everything. =PP But that's not important.

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Klomp's Romp(DKC2 unfinished) - JOEMAN23 Posted: 2013-04-20 18:44 Reply | Quote
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I love this song from DKC2. It's not finished though so let me know if you would want me to finish it. Maybe it will even be as good as angrybird_23's version.


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Posted: 2013-04-20 20:33 Reply | Quote
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If you are going to finish this do these two things:

1.- Add some volume envelopes to your lead, because it sounds plain and too loud. I recommend you try "note releases". If you don't know what this is, do the following:

Open a module, select a blank instrument, put any sequence you wish in the volume tab and then type the "/" symbol. Press Enter, and if you put anything after this symbol, a release sequence will be created. To enable it, put a "=" symbol in the pattern editor via the "1" key (by default). It's similar to a note cut, but instead it enables the release sequence. There's an example FTM in the attachments.

2.- Disable the MMC5 expansion. You didn't need to enable it at all! Just use 2A03 and for now you'll be fine. As I said, MMC5 does almost the same as 2A03 pulses, except for hardware sweeps(Hxy and Ixy effects), which you will likely not need.

Try to apply more volume control to your tracks so you can achieve better sounds and more pleasant tracks for us to hear. You still are good in this, but you need to improve. I wish you good luck!


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Posted: 2013-04-20 22:34 Reply | Quote
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Oh I see.they do sound way better! thanks!

So is that a yes for me to finish it?

Posted: 2013-04-21 00:11 Reply | Quote
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Sure. Just fix volume and disable MMC5 if you are not going to use the channels.

Posted: 2013-04-21 01:44 Reply | Quote
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Sounds good


Posted: 2013-04-21 12:24  (Last Edited: 2013-04-21 12:25) Reply | Quote
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i was groovin when the tempo increased =w=

there's a time and a place for blank instruments that have little to no modulation. sadly, it's rarely the case when you're talking about a leading instrument. there's all sorts of techniques you can use to make it interesting!

personally, i am very fond of the one channel echo. it's a great way to squeeze lots of depth out of a single channel, and best of all, it's super easy to do!

i don't have the patience to demonstrate some techniques for the entire module, but check this out: i provided examples of the one channel echo, and a new instrument with a duty cycle macro to give that section a 'plucked' feel

it's a liiiitle sloppy, but i think you'll get the idea!



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Posted: 2013-04-22 01:03 Reply | Quote
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Dude thanks! I see what you are saying. I would totally use that effect more often if I was more familiar with it, but sadly I am not... In time though I plan to be!

Posted: 2013-04-22 04:03 Reply | Quote
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Hey I've got a question about echoing? how do you know which G0x <-- to use? or how spaced out your echoed notes have to be from the real ones? a bunch of my song have different tempos so this would be good to know.

Posted: 2013-04-22 04:16 Reply | Quote
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That actually depends on many things, so I'll try to explain:

Gxx sets a delay for a note. If your note goes along with a G02 effect, that means it will be delayed 2 frames, but don't get confused, the amount of frames gets determined by the speed in the module, as long as you leave the tempo at 150. At speed 3 your song will use 3 frames when each row is played. A frame equals 1/60th second, based on the NES refresh rate. A row is each line you see in your pattern, where you put notes, effects, etc.

If you change tempo, this will become a mess and you will have a hard time determining which value your Gxx effect will really need to have, since the frames don't get the same length.

To handle echo, determining the amount of space between notes is up to you. They generally need to be very spaced but you should better experiment with those to know how it should be.

Hope this helped.

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