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Quoting jrlepage about disabling the option to turn off the hiss.
[quote=jrlepage]This will only spawn more complaints and lead to people creating forks of the program and then reporting bugs and issues for unsupported builds of Famitracker, thus increasing your troubles...[/quote]
Add a way to turn it off. You are forcing people to listen to something unpleasant, and it will only lead to complaints (Just like what this is).
Add a way to disable it. It would make us all happy.
I think there's a way to request this without resorting to rude language. Aside from that, this request has my full support.
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I'm not sure why this is important. It's just two extra channels, which can easily be heard in another emulator (or with 22050 sample rate in Famitracker, which has a pretty similar effect to console/tv filtering). Actually, jsr was nice and disabled multiplexing on 6 channels, which he didn't have to because the multiplexing is theoretically still in the audible range.
Not to say that an "option" is an unreasonable request, just that jsr has already heard it and responded accordingly, so to bring it up again and again seems weird.
I understand the importance of correct emulation, but, there's also this to consider:
most nsf players do not correctly emulate this (whether it's intentional or not is up for debate), and they're frequently used as the benchmark of hardware accuracy - there's a reason that most chiptune compos outside of the famitracker community require an NSF submission and not a famitracker (or other) module. if you don't believe me, export the famitracker module from the original post and then throw it at your favorite NSF players. i bet you wont hear the ear piercing hiss!
plus, even on the original hardware, if you are connected to an older television with any kind of connection, or a more modern one via RF input, it's just going to get filtered out and be 99% inaudible as it is.
the registry patch that worked in versions before 0.4.2 has already shown that disabling the hiss is as simple as toggling a switch. please give us the option to decide for ourselves whether or not we want it!
[quote=cak]Actually, jsr was nice and disabled multiplexing on 6 channels, which he didn't have to because the multiplexing is theoretically still in the audible range.[/quote]
It still is audible. I can hear it with 6 channels or even 4.
Anyway, I am all for an option to turn it on or off, as usual.
Fff why is this back? All due to two little / characters in the source...
Personally I have no interest in N163 composition, but honestly I think this will only result in several users sticking with 0.4.1 when they should be using and testing 0.4.2 with the rest of us.
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[quote=jrlepage]
the real N163 sounds terrible in the manual, wiki and forum posts already - I think everyone has understood that at this stage.[/quote]
Please enable a way to disable the 15khz screech in the n163 to make it more acessible to people with sensitive ears.
Other than that, this new version is good.[/quote]
Sounds like you don't understand the lesson that 7 or 8chan Namco is supposed to damage you ears. It needs to be left because a lot of poeple don't quite get that yet and are stubborn to prove that 7/8chan namco is salvagable. The way to get namco to stop hurting your ears is for the user to stop using it.
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RE: Option to disable the 15khz hiss in the N163Posted: 2013-02-11 20:24
[quote=moviemovies1]You are forcing people to listen to something unpleasant, and it will only lead to complaints (Just like what this is).[/quote]I'm not forcing anyone, it's entirely up to you if you want to create 8-channel N163 music or not. Go complain to the people who designed the chip instead.
[quote=Gamma]most nsf players do not correctly emulate this (whether it's intentional or not is up for debate), and they're frequently used as the benchmark of hardware accuracy - there's a reason that most chiptune compos outside of the famitracker community require an NSF submission and not a famitracker (or other) module. if you don't believe me, export the famitracker module from the original post and then throw it at your favorite NSF players. i bet you wont hear the ear piercing hiss![/quote]No, most players do not emulate this because it was mostly unknown until recently. Now it is known and it is a major flaw of the chip (obviously), and I don't understand why anyone genuinely interested in using this chip would want to ignore that. And for you who don't care: there are plenty of sample based trackers that can do the same thing, using N163 would only be the worse option.
[quote=Gamma]plus, even on the original hardware, if you are connected to an older television with any kind of connection, or a more modern one via RF input, it's just going to get filtered out and be 99% inaudible as it is.[/quote]This can be achieved by altering the filter settings.
I like how you're going on every tangent possible to ignore your userbase's opinion on the matter and enforce [i]your own[/i] on everyone instead.
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@raijin: If it is still audible on lower channel groups, you are probably hearing the aliasing of the N163. Nothing to do with multiplexing.
@jrlepage: It's not jsr's opinion, it's how the chip was designed. This is a Famicom emulator, not a "Famicom except for 2 channels which sound like crap, so we fixed them" emulator. Also, not to be rude, but simply using the tracker doesn't entitle you to tell the developer what to do.
