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request - feature to simplify triangle kicks Posted: 2012-03-09 02:08  (Last Edited: 2012-03-09 03:31) Reply | Quote
bucky



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#31448
[b]EDIT: It appears that the 0.3.8 beta has a feature for exactly this![/b]
Great. Good work guys!

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Hey guys, not sure if this has been discussed before, or if there's something I'm missing that enables this...

Looking closely at some Euro triangle kicks, I think the process for recreating or using them in famitracker could be simplified.

A lot of these pitch slides are arbitrary, meaning they don't re-pitch according to the sustained note that follows afterwards (when a melodic bassline continues between the hits). This means that if you want the same downward pitch at the beginning of each note, but you want different notes sustaining, you need to create two different instruments- one for the pitch bend, another for the melodic note.

As it is, it's not really a big deal to write this way, you can write out something that looks like this (00 = pitch bend kick, 01 = normal triangle instrument):

C-3 00
D-2 01
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A-2 01
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C-3 00
D-2 01
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D-3 01
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But I think it'd be nice to have an option that makes it automated into one instrument. I'm not sure how that'd look in the instrument editor, perhaps a checkbox that says "enable fixed pitch", and the pitch table changes from one that uses relative pitches to one that has you draw an envelope over a set of fixed frequencies?

The x axis could be the length of the effect (like everything else), so if it lasts 5 60ths of a second, that means the final instrument will finally leap to the sustained note written in the tracker-space on its 6th frame.

Is that too much, or can anyone picture an easier way to accomplish the same task? Maybe another effect called "fixed pitch" that can't be checked at the same time as 'pitch'?

I guess it might make sense to accept that famitracker is a very different tool than what composers used back in the day, and recreating everything exactly is bound to have some obstacles. But in my efforts to recreate and share instruments, famitracker is actually quite adept at recreating almost everything done in old game soundtracks. Recreating triangle kicks is really the first roadblock where I can't share a simple instrument with people... it comes with prohibitive stipulations like song speed if you try to make things exact.

Just an idea! Let me know what you guys think.

Posted: 2012-03-09 02:28 Reply | Quote
Mex

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#31449
the fixed arpeggio mode will do this for you

provided you have 0.3.8

Posted: 2012-03-09 02:54  (Last Edited: 2012-03-09 03:45) Reply | Quote
bucky



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#31451
edit: Didn't see Mex's post! Thanks!
I don't have 0.3.8. I'll have to take a look at it...

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I was just thinking, having a window where you pick from all the frequencies available might be kind of ridiculous. You'd probably need a long vertical scroll-area.

Don't know if something kinda like this makes any more sense:
[url=http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j360/explod2a03/content%20for%20tumblr/FixedPitch.gif]Fixed Pitch Envelope Mockup

That would allow you to to hit any frequency in a pitch slide instead of a long list of frequencies.

edit: Nevermind, it's fine in the beta. You only need the notes with an arp because fine pitch can still be done with pitch normally, duh.

Posted: 2012-03-09 03:09 Reply | Quote
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#31453
I agree, that would be good to be able to hit any note with any Pxx command for fixed arpeggio. I'm so excited for the absolute note feature!

Posted: 2012-03-09 03:22 Reply | Quote
rainwarrior

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#31456
I once used an Fxy pattern to separate out the first few frames from what follows for this purpose, kinda like what you mentioned above.


Posted: 2012-03-09 03:40  (Last Edited: 2012-03-09 03:41) Reply | Quote
bucky



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#31457
This is working great! I'm impressed.

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