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Posted: 2012-04-22 03:50  (Last Edited: 2012-04-22 03:52) Reply | Quote
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#33903
Do this:

File > Configuration > Sound
Treble filtering: Damping = -70 dB
Treble filtering: Frequency = 8000 Hz


But that said, you should take responsibility for protecting your own well being. If it's giving you a headache, put it down. Stop using it. Yes, it should have an option, but that's no reason to subject yourself to something that is hurting you.

Posted: 2012-04-22 04:52 Reply | Quote
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#33910
the first time you use n163, let famitracker show a prompt telling you the dangerous nature of the n163 chip and a "No not show this dialog again." checkbox

Posted: 2012-04-22 05:02 Reply | Quote
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#33912
Health and safety gone MAD!

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Posted: 2012-04-22 05:32 Reply | Quote
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#33915
we will make a petition out of this issue

Posted: 2012-04-22 07:25 Reply | Quote
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#33924
Noticed a problem with Fxx in 0.3.8 beta.

In 0.3.7 Fxx sets speed for xx <= $20

In 0.3.8 Fxx sets speed for xx <= $15

The documentation for 0.3.7 claims it should be for xx <= $1F (not $20), and I dunno why it's different again in 0.3.8 but I would vote it should do what the docs say, since that's an easy split point to remember.

Posted: 2012-04-22 07:46 Reply | Quote
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#33925
the split point has a really long history and jsr changes it in almost half of the versions

Posted: 2012-04-22 11:45 Reply | Quote
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rainwarrior wrote:
Do this:

File > Configuration > Sound
Treble filtering: Damping = -70 dB
Treble filtering: Frequency = 8000 Hz


But that said, you should take responsibility for protecting your own well being. If it's giving you a headache, put it down. Stop using it. Yes, it should have an option, but that's no reason to subject yourself to something that is hurting you.


I kinda over-exaggerated about it giving me headaches all the time. I was tired when I wrote it, and it actually gives me headaches about 1 out of 25 times I use it.
But I still vote for a switch to turn the channel switching noise off.

Posted: 2012-04-22 14:46  (Last Edited: 2012-04-22 16:00) Reply | Quote
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#33941
guess what

i set the sample rate to 192000 Hz using regedit

the atrocity has been doubled

EDIT: i just manually tested different sample rates, even ones that are not supposed to be there

i found that sample rates higher than 119330 Hz (approx. 1/15 of the master clock rate) cause the N163 channels to glitch regardless of no. of channels!!!

obviously this has nothing to do with the rest of you, but if FamiTracker uses a different method to deal with the multiplexing hiss since beta 4, now that bothers me. 192000 Hz sample rate works pretty well in all versions before

Posted: 2012-04-22 20:32  (Last Edited: 2012-04-22 20:32) Reply | Quote
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It should either be a switch to turn the noise off, or it should not be there if less than 8 channels are used.
And here's something that annoys me:
In the attached file, the echo makes the whole song's DC offset gets pushed down. Just look at the oscilloscope!


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Posted: 2012-04-22 20:41 Reply | Quote
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#33970
Woah, that DC offset thing is weird... and if you mute the other channels, it goes UP when the echo channel starts!

Posted: 2012-04-22 20:55 Reply | Quote
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#33971
If you mute just the bass, it goes all the way down.
And here's another example: It shifts DC offset randomly because of the guitar. The DC offset shifting also makes a lot of noise.
This may be a reason to make the inaccurate emulation availble, but I don't know.


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Posted: 2012-04-24 23:44 Reply | Quote
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#34159
Off topic, but still related to this thread:
Is support for longer waveforms planned? (just read the wiki, lul jrlepage is not the only one)
Cause I can live with the whole hiss emulation if I can have two 128, or one 256 sample wave

Posted: 2012-04-24 23:51 Reply | Quote
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It's planned, but not for 0.3.8; probably in a later release.

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#34168
Longer waveforms is planned, but not in 0.3.8 as it requires some additional changes. But 256 samples are not possible as it collides with the audio registers.

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#34170
To quote something Dave said years and years ago when the VRC6 was in its infancy: undesirable behaviour can be desirable sometimes. He said that in reference to the distorted sawtooth wave. I think the ability to read channel data as waveform data should be left in for that reason! It might be interesting to see someone come up with something interesting with those sounds haha.

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