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Just dropping in to say hi.
I've been toying with Famitracker for a few days now and found a lot of help on this forum.
Now I'm stuck on a certain bassline I just can't get. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itwF3mItxM4 (The sample starts at 0:44).
I find a single "wap" is so difficult to create. It's short, it has an echo, it changes tone slightly. I don't know wether to do it in Triangle or in Square. The fact that it's short makes me want to use an Axx effects, but that kind of ruins the echo. I considered cutting it out and making a DPCM out of it, but then I can't recreate the melody. Nor is it possible to extract the sample "clean".
Please dear forum, you've helped me so much already, you must be able to help me?
J'utiliserais le square avec un envelope de duty quelconque (quelque chose comme { 2 2 1}).
[i]I'd use the square channel with a duty cycle envelope (something like { 2 2 1 }).[/i]
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RE: Hello! (And help with a certain triangle)Posted: 2012-01-11 21:13
TRIPLE POST TIEM!
[quote=jotie]Did you misunderstand me? Or are you being sarcastic?[/quote]I misunderstood you. Sorry. Glad I could be of service.
[quote=rainwarrior]For the VRC6 version you might also try starting with "3 2 1 0" instead of "1 0 0 0" to emphasize the "wah" sound to it.[/quote]I considered that ex post facto. I haven't tested it, but it sounds like a good idea in theory.
[quote=Xcalber]Something to work with.[/quote]Nice! I suck balls at frequency modulation stuff, so this impresses me a lot. :D
EDIT: Avoiding yet ANOTHER post...
In the spirit of teaching a man to fish, here's what I did:
Recorded a small clip of the song and took a look at the waveform:
[url=http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i207/Necrophageon/BassWaveform.png]Waveform
You can see where I got the volume envelope just by looking at it. A 6.25% square wave (V00 on VRC6) is about as close as you're going to get without attempting to draw it as an FDS wave. The 01's at the beginning and end are there to try and account for the "wah". As rainwarrior mentioned, changing the "1 0 0" at the beginning to "3 2 1" will get you a bit more of that effect.
Sometimes I suck at explaining things. I hope that wasn't too confusing. :P
I went for 2 1 0 0 0, Thx!
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1174/basswaveform.png
Like this? I think I understand you.
Too bad I can't put it in the Triangle line tough. I really want it to swell before hitting F
I need 2 square waves (and I don't want to start with expansions chips just yet), So I'll put a dumbed down version in the Triangle and just skip the swelling part.
Any tips on converting square to triangle? I made it 4 8 12 15 15 13 11 9 7 5 3 1 0 instead of 4 8 12 15 15 13 11 9 7 5 3 1 , and raised them 2 octaves. But the -rrrr- is kind of gone. Is it possible to recover it?
If it's just an extra square you're looking for, I'd recommend the MMC5 expansion rather than trying to shuffle things into the triangle channel.
MMC5 just gives you two extra square channels that are more-or-less identical to the standard square channels and doesn't introduce anything new that might be considered intimidating to newcomers.
The triangle channel is the least versatile, as you can't change the timbre or the volume (technically). It's basically up to you whether you want to try and imitate the sound with a square and some effect envelopes, or go with a more generic triangle bass to free up an extra square.
Kinkin is correct - The triangle will be an octave lower despite the octave setting in FT. So a square @ C-3 is the same pitch as a triangle @ C-4.
Oh and yes, you've got the idea with that waveform image. I just sort of eyeballed it when I made the envelope; feel free to use your own discretion.
Christ, that was wordy. Hopefully it was somewhat helpful.
Yeah I'm really going for the dumbed down triangle version, sounds so much more old school.
:D
About teaching me fish, with what did you record the waveform? Right now I'm doing it with Audacity, and just zooming in on it, but it doesn't seem as clear as your example.
