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"alone with my dog" sad
"someone died" sad
"my girl left me" sad
"suicidal" sad
"longing" sad ect...
7th chords are also good at communicating more complex emotions being that they contain major and minor chords...if you are ever trying to express a more complex type of sadness using maj and min 7th chords are a good start... anyway...
It depends on the context too. You can make a happy song be a sad one if whatever is happening at the same time is sad as well. Usually the best "sad" songs are minor, but they also have some major chords that support the minor ones, otherwise it just sounds GLOOMY or EVIL :D
[quote=yucca70]Noob question or not, I'm having trouble comprehending what makes a sad song.
I made an attempt, but I feel like something is missing
What should I do for the tri, noise, and DPCM?[/quote]
There's nothing missing except for knowing how to implement a deep, sombre mood in your music (especially when you're still using A minor, a variant of C major). And yes, kinkinkijkin; it's not a simple matter of specifically using a minor key because you can still produce cheerful music in a minor key!
To make a sad song, you need a slow or moderately-slow tempo (not so slow that your tracker's crawling at 30 BPM). You also need to select any major or minor key whose set of notes can be used to invoke sadness. You could try C# minor or E major for this; I feel, at least, that the set of notes can be used effectively (hell; you could even try covering the video that rainwarrior posted, or even transcribing [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyFyAqLtHq8]Chopin's funeral march, which illustrates exactly what Rushjet1's talking about).
Just one thing; avoid using anything to simulate percussion. There's a reason that nobody plays snare drums & crashes cymbals by someone's death bed.
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I don't think that trying to translate emotions into musical phrases is something easily taught or learned. Emotional interpretation is kind of subjective, too...
I'd say listen to music you consider 'sad' in the context you had in mind, and just pay close attention to what's going on; what is each instrument doing, and why do they make you feel sad?
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[quote=yucca70]Noob question or not, I'm having trouble comprehending what makes a sad song.
I made an attempt, but I feel like something is missing
What should I do for the tri, noise, and DPCM?
Thanks for the help![/quote]
yea slow minor key. but it would help if you yourself were really sad. make the song when your sad. and make sure when you make it sad. that you get more sad when you listen to it.
Minor key by itself doesn't necessarily make something sad. Major keys can be sad too (eg. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5F3nbbdlv4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5F3nbbdlv4)
A lot of ear training teachers will try to get you to learn major and minor by describing them as "happy" and "sad" but this is a disservice to the range of expression they both can have.
Seriously, though, my suggestion is still to find some music you think is sad, and steal/borrow its techniques. There's centuries of music you can just look up and start learning from.
[quote=rainwarrior]Minor key by itself doesn't necessarily make something sad. Major keys can be sad too (eg. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5F3nbbdlv4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5F3nbbdlv4)
find some music you think is sad, and steal/borrow its techniques. There's centuries of music you can just look up and start learning from.[/quote] what happens to creativity when you do that
[quote=rainwarrior]You learn more ways to express your creative ideas, instead of just having those ideas and not knowing what to do with them.[/quote]
This should be everybody's signature on this forum.
You don't learn by doing things right away; you do things by studying & learning from others who have the experience. The FamiTracker Wiki teaches you a few tricks with the program, the Help file teaches the commands, but you need to understand music well enough to know how to manipulate notes to affect people's moods, iGotno_scope.
rainwarrior; that Chrono Trigger video didn't really sound sad to me (it sounded more like a lullaby). Other than that, you're 100% correct because for every minor key signature, there's a corresponding major key signature. So, differentiating between minor/sad & major/happy is just like arguing that the Earth is round in the 21st century.
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