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so I mucked around with your volume settings a bit. The VRC7 was SO LOUD I couldn't hear any groove from the drums!
Things seem much quieter, but you'll notice that you can hear all parts about equally now.
I also lowered the triangle down a few octaves so you would actually have some bass to support everything. And also replaced the chimey crystal piano with a brass sound once the song picked up, to match the energy.
These edits are really just personal taste I guess, take em or leave em. But again, I really dig this one!
edit: again, it's really quiet but if you crank the volume up on your speakers you'll really hear your whole arrangement jump out at you.
editx2: [url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3154503/funk19_volume_control_.mp3]here's what it'd sound like at a normalized level.
WeirdBananas: Mixing VRC7 volumes is fairly easy to learn. You can tend to stay with volume B being max, which works for most instruments. But sometimes, it just is too silent with B, so you ajust until you find a fitting volume (Usually C or D).
Moviemovies, I find C to be a nice maximum if you want something louder and your 20A3 instruments are loud enough to match, and A being a nice max for quieter songs.
Wierdbananas, nice song. Though I agree about the volume.
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[quote=Weirdbananas]Mixing VRC7 is not something I'm experienced with. [/quote]
Yea. A good rule of thumb for getting a decent sounding mix: mute everything and start with the dpcm/drums, then add the bass, then add the noise, then add the other channels one by one. Each step of the way, focus on finding a volume that all channels can be easily be heard at. Finding a balance is the key here.
Things like always using a specific volume setting will not work every time. Especially with VRC7. There are so many different timbres available that react differently to being played in certain octaves, therefor always giving you a different range of frequencies and perceived levels of loudness.
For example, the reason I switched to a brass sound midway through the tune. The chimes had a lot going on in lower-mid range, which works great when there are not many other instruments playing. But when everything picks up, it gets buried and you can't hear it as much. This is because there are other things using that frequency range that mask it, such as the dpcm/percussion stuff.
So the only way to hear the chimey piano better would be to raise the volume. But hey, that creates a problem because now you can hear the chimes, but it's masking the drums. Also, the upper mid frequencies start sounding a lot louder because that's how this particular patch works: it's loudest in the upper mids and next in the lower mids.
In studio mixing, this is when you'd bust out an Equalizer. And actually, with studio mixing, the better solution would be to have a better arrangement or use a different mic'ing technique so you don't even have to touch EQ. So that's what you can do with VRC7. There was a conflict with two or more channels hogging the same frequency range, so I chose the brass sound to get out of the way of the dpcm; take a more careful approach to arranging your composition.
If too many channels are playing in the same range, you have to choose the one that's most important. All others that aren't as important should be lower in volume or occupy another range. And what's important with funk is always the drums, bass and rhythm parts. This is actually the same for most genres and styles.
Like the triangle was also playing in the same range as the other channels, which you couldn't hear at all. So I put it down in a range where almost nothing else was at the time, the bass.
haha, sorry for the long post here, but I wanted to shut down some misconceptions about mixing in general, which most certainly applies to VRC7 and all other extensions for that matter. In most cases when you have a lot of channels, a one-size-fits-all approach to adjusting volume levels will never work.
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