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Do you think it would be a good idea to implement a feature that allows one to import any NSF file in Famitracker?
Yes, it should be made a feature in a future release of Famitracker.
58% ( 45 )
Yes, but it should be made as an external application instead.
30% ( 23 )
No, I do not think this is a priority for now.
12% ( 9 )

Total votes: 77
Posted: 2011-07-03 17:18 Reply(Locked)
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#19359
The only reason I wouldn't want to see it in FT itself is that it would be an inordinate amount of code for this one feature (you need almost a whole NES emulator to play back NFSs, more or less). Most people don't look at the code, I suppose, but it's something I'm very glad is there.

Again though, not my call. If jsr would be happy with it, then he should go ahead.

If he doesn't want to do it, I'd consider taking a shot at it myself in a few weeks when I've got less on my plate.

Posted: 2011-07-03 17:34  (Last Edited: 2011-07-03 17:35) Reply(Locked)
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Actually, you only need a 6502 emulator and some extra code (loading data into emulated memory, bankswitching logic) to 'play back' (getting register writes, but no actual sound) NSFs, so it is like 1-2 extra files in the source code.

Posted: 2011-07-03 17:55  (Last Edited: 2011-07-03 18:09) Reply(Locked)
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#19362
I think it would probably be a little more than that, but yeah I guess it wouldn't be /that/ much code in the end. I retract that thought.

Posted: 2011-07-03 20:25 Reply(Locked)
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#19365
Voted no because I find it unnecessary in general.

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Posted: 2011-07-04 02:26 Reply(Locked)
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While I did vote yes on this(external app.), I don't want to look like I'm being greedy. JSR has already used quite a bit of his time with most of the extra chips, not to mention Famitracker itself. And I'm already doing ok studying everything about NSFs using other methods.

(Hmm... Maybe I should've voted "No, I do not think this is a priority for now."...)

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Posted: 2011-07-04 02:40 Reply(Locked)
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And he already established recently that this is more complicated than he initially thought.

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Posted: 2011-07-04 02:59 Reply(Locked)
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Yeah, that too! I forgot he said that. Now that I really think about it, I should've voted "No". Anyway to change my vote?

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Posted: 2011-07-04 03:07  (Last Edited: 2011-07-06 00:20) Reply(Locked)
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jrlepage wrote:
As for those who consider the feature useless, well I am flummoxed...

I guess I'm just cynical as to whether such a tool could be made that works well. If it can, I'd be all for it (if it wouldn't be a burden on actual FT development, which it probably would be).


Posted: 2011-07-04 03:30 Reply(Locked)
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It is a feature that seems a bit redundant if you have used NSFPlug which has a keyboard view w/slowdown control. It can get you almost anything you want to know about an NSF.

The nice thing about doing it in FamiTracker is taking time out of the equation altogether. No more having to seek over and over, etc. Also you can make fun edits, I suppose.

Posted: 2011-07-04 22:44 Reply(Locked)
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TechEmporium wrote:
And he already established recently that this is more complicated than he initially thought.

I'm not sure what you mean.

Anyway the converter nowhere near ready, as I explained in the other thread, so I lot of time must be spent developing it. And some hardware features are not implemented in the tracker that was commonly used in earlier games so those won't be converted properly (unless these features are also added). And finally it will still look like the example, nothing better. If you are really interested in the techniques used in game NSFs then the only way is to learn 6502 hacking.

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Posted: 2011-07-07 00:32 Reply(Locked)
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It'd be nice, but I figure it can wait. Though I'd love to see some more Tim Follin and all of his wizardy wizardness in a(n) .ftm.

Posted: 2011-07-11 13:19 Reply(Locked)
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Well, the importer has been out for a few days now, as an external feature (actually a modified FamiTracker 0.3.6). I guess we don't need this poll anymore.

Further NSF import discussion is welcome in this thread. Head over to this one for more info on the importer itself.

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