furrykef: yeah i brought up that problem a while back. making the channel volume setting scale stuff relatively rather than absolutely would solve the problem - like how most audio applications would do it. however it'd make old songs sound very different. i made a really crappy graph back then, for anyone who remembers it:
i'd be for it, as it'd make the tracker much more usable in the long-run. having to make two or more similar instruments just so they sound right at different volumes is a pain. i just imagine it'll be more complicated to program relative volume scaling, what with the 16 volume steps and all.
That's true, but we could make it a togglable switch, one specific to the FTM. MOD formats did it with linear frequency slides. All you need is an option in the "Module Properties" dialogue, a corresponding change to the file format, and there you have it.
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i just imagine it'll be more complicated to program relative volume scaling, what with the 16 volume steps and all.
Well, I already explained how it could be done. I could program it myself if nobody else wants to. It's that important... it's a serious enough problem to keep me from using FamiTracker sometimes.
Still no possibility of linking to individual posts, but I'm hoping it will be added soon.
Now it is added. A link to the right like #id. Copy the url and paste it into the post you write using BB-code for url. Use the preview functionality to check if the link works before posting, then you have done it in the right way. You can use the full url or just the last part, posts.php?id=...
Excellent, thank you very much. I think the link would fit much better in the top left of the post (before "Posted: [date and time]" ) rather than at the bottom right (under user status, because right now it looks like the number has something to do with the user), but the important thing is that it works.
I changed the volume column for square and noise to be scaling instead of subtracting: . It's not in the NSF exporter yet, but it will handled like Kef said (dunno why I didn't think of that myself in this case, another lookup-table won't hurt).
I'm also aware that this will affect old songs, and I'm not sure what would be better: adding a compability mode or just leave it. (I don't really like adding two modes since this is supposed to replace the older method).
jsr: You totally have to remove the "when you press on + or - key you select the button". Pretend that you're changing the values with + and - buttons, changing patterns and stuff. Then you decide to edit the pattern you're in. When pressing space you also press + or - ...
Please make the + and - button work the same way as the Speed, Tempo, Rows etc. buttons.
I think I have tried to tell you this before. It's really strange that no one else has had problem with this. Like it is now, you have to mouseclick in the pattern after using the + or - key, so it's not selected. Actually I think EVERY button should work this way. If you don't understand what I'm meaning I'll explain it in Swedish!
Well anyways...Posted: 2008-09-22 17:00 (Last Edited: 2008-09-22 17:04)
I was wondering if anyone requested something along the lines of a pattern break for this tracker. This would come in handy for those who like to track with variable row numbers.
One example is that I would eventually like to change the time signature from 4/4 to 3/4 midsong and then back to 4/4 later. I have yet to master fiddling around with the tempo change commands, let alone touch them altogether. I figure the tempo way of changing time signatures would be, in contrast to pattern breaks, a stabbing pain in the ass, if you get my driftwood...
I could always master tempo changing, though.
Edit: I found a way, and it isn't as big of a pain in the ass as I had so thought... (^-^)7
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You now process Dracula's Rib. Good luck processing it...
How about a 'Note Off' function -- not 'Note Cut', that's already been there for ages.
ImpulseTracker and some other trackers have this function; an instrument with a sustain envelope or whatever would play past the sustaining part when it encountered a 'Note Off' thing in the pattern (which, in ImpulseTracker, looked like ^^^ if I remember right).
Granted, this probably isn't a NEEDed function, but I think it'd be cool to have. And if I failed to explain it comprehensibly, I could whip out MS Paint and make a few mock-up examples of what I meant.
I don't understand the difference from note off. At least not if you can't have a loop stop before the end of a volume envelope macro, in which case you could let such an effect make the instrument ignore that looper.
How about a 'Note End' function -- not 'Note Off', that's already been there for ages.
ImpulseTracker and some other trackers have this function; an instrument with a sustain envelope or whatever would play past the sustaining part when it encountered a 'Note End' thing in the pattern (which, in ImpulseTracker, looked like ^^^).
I think you're getting a bit confused there... To what I've known in my tracker days:
Note off = releasing the note and completing a looping envelope (doesn't really matter here because we don't have two loop points in FT yet)
Note cut = immediately stop the note from playing anymore.
How about a 'Note End' function -- not 'Note Off', that's already been there for ages.
ImpulseTracker and some other trackers have this function; an instrument with a sustain envelope or whatever would play past the sustaining part when it encountered a 'Note End' thing in the pattern (which, in ImpulseTracker, looked like ^^^).
I think you're getting a bit confused there... To what I've known in my tracker days:
Note off = releasing the note and completing a looping envelope (doesn't really matter here because we don't have two loop points in FT yet)
Note cut = immediately stop the note from playing anymore.
Well darn it all -- sorry, yeah, I got a bit mixed up. I meant 'Note Cut' where I said 'Note Off', and 'Note Off' where I said 'Note End'. I'll just go edit my post so it makes more sense. :D
How about a 'Note End' function -- not 'Note Off', that's already been there for ages.
ImpulseTracker and some other trackers have this function; an instrument with a sustain envelope or whatever would play past the sustaining part when it encountered a 'Note End' thing in the pattern (which, in ImpulseTracker, looked like ^^^).
I think you're getting a bit confused there... To what I've known in my tracker days:
Note off = releasing the note and completing a looping envelope (doesn't really matter here because we don't have two loop points in FT yet)
Note cut = immediately stop the note from playing anymore.
Well darn it all -- sorry, yeah, I got a bit mixed up. I meant 'Note Cut' where I said 'Note Off', and 'Note Off' where I said 'Note End'. I'll just go edit my post so it makes more sense. :D
So... you want to request double loop points and an effect that makes a loop stop? I'm all for a feature like this, I just don't know how it should be implemented.
I'm for it too. I dunno why it shouldn't be implemented the same way it is in other trackers such as ModPlug Tracker. Such an envelope would look something like this:
8 12 | 15 | 12 8 6 4 2 0
(i.e, fade into 15, stay there, then fade out on note-off)
And you'd just have separate note-off and note-cut commands, which in ModPlug Tracker look like == and ^^, respectively, in the note column.
I could program it myself if nobody else wants to. It's that important... it's a serious enough problem to keep me from using FamiTracker sometimes.
