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This is the Hell (New track) Posted: 2012-10-19 23:23  (Last Edited: 2012-10-20 00:00) Reply | Quote
VALLCAR

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#40788
Hello I Finished my new track XD, coming soon second track.


http://soundcloud.com/valcar


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Posted: 2012-10-19 23:55 Reply | Quote
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#40790
FTM please Vallcar.

(You won't get much response from these guys without it).

Posted: 2012-10-20 00:00 Reply | Quote
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Sorry i miss the file :P

Posted: 2012-10-20 00:10 Reply | Quote
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Well, haha. I don't know what to say about that. Deliberately discordant and beguiling. It has some interesting phrases and wilfully frustrating parts.

Is that what you were going for?

Don't quote me, but I think I like it. Kinda.

Posted: 2012-10-20 00:25 Reply | Quote
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#40793
Thanks i try to do something DOOM!

Posted: 2012-10-20 03:06  (Last Edited: 2012-10-20 03:07) Reply | Quote
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It sounded like I would imagine the music in hell would sound, so... good job?

Posted: 2012-10-20 08:36  (Last Edited: 2012-10-20 08:37) Reply | Quote
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sounds like you thrown some random notes into a .ftm. and then - done.

remember, a song is a pleasure to listen, when everything goes with everything else.

a good way to start a song is to think of a main melody. then, after some patterns of it, you can do various variations of it, make a transition etc. you also have to think of a suitable bass for all to have a good sound.

keep doing these and keep getting better.

Posted: 2012-10-20 09:26 Reply | Quote
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Dissonance and discordance is hard to make sound "good" but it's definitely possible. This just sounds kind of random and because of that doesn't really capture any particular mood, other than annoyance. The instruments are also very plain and have no character.

Here are two very different examples of what I consider "good" dissonance/discordance:

[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2E058Ep99Y]Bartok

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUxl3bPUvHU]Zu

Posted: 2012-10-20 13:32 Reply | Quote
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Well at least there's only 1 frame of Hxy IGotNoScoposis in this one.

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Posted: 2012-10-21 07:27 Reply | Quote
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This made me widen my eyes like I was sucking on a lemon.

Posted: 2012-10-21 22:57  (Last Edited: 2012-10-21 22:58) Reply | Quote
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[quote=za909]Well at least there's only 1 frame of Hxy IGotNoScoposis in this one.[/quote]

Please don't remind me of that...

[quote=robro]Dissonance and discordance is hard to make sound "good" but it's definitely possible.[/quote]

It depends; to make dissonance & discord sound decent, you need to master a good amount of volume control, pitch-bending techniques & actually trying to create a specific mood in your piece.

Bartok's work is discordant, but it's not exactly dissonant because the notes all flow in a regulated manner that invokes a dark mood of mental confusion. The same goes for Zu's work.

Castlevania's music, though, is the best example I can try to offer, in keeping with the need for better volume control, pitch-bending techniques & mood setting (try to set all channels of a Castlevania song to the same volume & eliminate all pitch bending effects to see what I'm talking about). And since we're talking about chiptunes, better volume control is definitely a must if you want to keep your music from being catatonic.

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Posted: 2012-10-21 23:44  (Last Edited: 2012-10-22 00:00) Reply | Quote
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[quote=TechEmporium]Bartok's work is discordant, but it's not exactly dissonant because the notes all flow in a regulated manner that invokes a dark mood of mental confusion. The same goes for Zu's work.[/quote]

Not to sidetrack this thread too much but this made me wonder, what does dissonance mean to you then?

From [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissonance_(music)#Dissonance]Wikipedia: "dissonance is the quality of sounds that seems "unstable" and has an aural "need" to "resolve" to a "stable" consonance."

So it's basically the opposite of "stable" consonance. And this mainly refers to harmony but can also be used to describe the series of notes in a melody. I would argue that my examples definitely fit this definition, and neither really ever resolve to consonance which makes them pretty much entirely dissonant (imbuing them with a powerful feeling of something being very wrong).

I was thinking about putting Stravinsky in there as well. Here's a [url=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0a/Stravinsky%2C_The_Rite_of_Spring%2C_Sacrificial_Dance.mid]little excerpt from The Rite of Spring. Would you say that is not dissonant?

edit: How about some [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7wefv98lvo]Schoenberg twelve-tone music?

Posted: 2012-10-25 07:49 Reply | Quote
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Hey Vallcar, I sent you a Private Message about posting a remix of your song. Believe it or not, I got a vision.

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Posted: 2012-10-25 08:25 Reply | Quote
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[quote=Fezuke]Hey Vallcar, I sent you a Private Message about posting a remix of your song. Believe it or not, I got a vision.[/quote]

Great tell me more!

Honestly I would love to, mainly because I do not want to work more on this track for now.

Posted: 2012-10-25 09:22 Reply | Quote
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I'm not finished yet, but I'm working on it!! I keep getting new ideas.

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