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Hello there, spent some time working on a Neon Tiger from MMX3, did a little transcription and then a lame attempt at percussion and bassline. I don't personally feel it's garbage, but I think it's missing quite a bit, I especially noticed this as I worked through the tune. It's a bit repetitive. Any advice you have to offer is greatly appreciated.
Did say covers, included in the FTM is the Sonic 2 boss theme I did about a week ago. I ramble, anyway, here goes. And thank you.
yea that's happened to everyone at least once i think
i'll give this a listen when i'm not at work :P
edit: OK, did a little edit for the sonic boss theme.
Sounds good to me, you got the melodies and basslines correct overall. Just need to pick up different techniques to make things sound more interesting, which will happen in due time from studying other's ftm's and such.
You're missing a phrase at the end before it finishes looping. I put the melody part in this file but didn't mess with the bass line because I don't know it well enough.
This was one of the first songs I learned on guitar.
Thank you kindly, I'll study these edits. As for the missed phrase, I'll have to get more accurate reference material in the future. The Neon Tiger midi I worked from just sort of...trailed off before the loop. Thanks again!
Edit: Just remembered a question I wanted to ask. What key is this in? I tried to spot it by matching up the more or less constant sharps/flats to my Circle of Fifths chart via key signature but for the life of me I couldn't find it. Might have been easier to improvise a few better parts if I knew. Anyway, knowing will better help me study through to figure out the keys of future songs. Thank you kindly.
Some other places I've tried to conquer:
[url=http://chipmusic.org/ch3dd4r]Le Chipmusic
[url=http://battleofthebits.org/barracks/Profile/CH3DD4R/]Le BattleOfTheBits
[quote=Agrinja]Thank you kindly, I'll study these edits. As for the missed phrase, I'll have to get more accurate reference material in the future. The Neon Tiger midi I worked from just sort of...trailed off before the loop. Thanks again! [/quote]
I tend to use the games' soundfiles as references. For SNES that would be SPC files, which you can dump to midi with spc2midi on zophar.net (although not perfect, which tones are played should be correct). I tend to do everything by ear. You can also find SPCs, NSFs, GYMs, etc. at zophar.net and ocremix.org for a lot of the more common games. There are probably better resources, but those are the ones I know of personally.
[quote=Agrinja]Edit: Just remembered a question I wanted to ask. What key is this in? I tried to spot it by matching up the more or less constant sharps/flats to my Circle of Fifths chart via key signature but for the life of me I couldn't find it. Might have been easier to improvise a few better parts if I knew. Anyway, knowing will better help me study through to figure out the keys of future songs. Thank you kindly. [/quote]
Disclaimer: I am FAR from being an expert on theory, so the following is only my best guess given my limited knowledge.
I can tell you right now that it is not a standard scale because it uses C, B, A# all together, which are all half-steps apart. No scale that I can think of has three notes that are separated by half-steps. It would be one thing if it were harmonic minor, where a scalar position (the 6th and 7th) changes depending on which direction you are traversing the scale, however that is not the case here. It descends the entire way from C to B to A#, so that isn't what's happening.
So getting that out of the way, while I'm not entirely sure what scale is being used, if I had to take a guess, I'd say it's somehow related to the natural minor scale in B-flat or F. The reason I say this is because in the actual game version of the song, each phrase ends on either A# (aka B-flat) or F. F is the 5th of B-flat natural minor, and all the notes match except for B.
It may very well be the case that this is just B-flat natural minor and the composer decided to play outside of the scale because it gives the song some edginess.
Here's a reference video of the original version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMk78h69OLk
Hey agrinja!
This is pretty good. As CheeseGuy99 said, keep up the good work.
As for the key it's in, it appears to be G harmonic minor.
It contains A#, D#, and F#. A# and D# are the same as Bb and Eb (which is Bb major), and the F# serves as a raised 7th of the relative minor of Bb major (G minor). Harmonic minor scales are the same as natural minor scales, except for the raised 7th. Since F# is the seventh, we know that it must be G harmonic minor
(Someone please correct me if I'm wrong :P)
EDIT: Wait a second... I never noticed that there was a natural B. Since you don't always have to follow an exact key signature in certain cases, I'm just gonna say that the natural B is in there to contribute to the song's style.
@clerian
Here's some advice for you:
-Half steps are more commonly known as semitones
-A minor scale where the 6th and 7th is raised on the way up the scale is actually called a [u]Melodic[/u] minor scale. [u]Harmonic[/u] minor is when the 7th (and only the 7th) is raised both going up and down.
By no means am I trying to be insulting or anything, I'm just trying to give some pointers
My bad! Like I said, I am FAR from an expert on theory. I always get harmonic and melodic minor confused for some reason. Thanks for correcting me on that!
As for your own guess, though, I wonder what mode it is playing in if it is G harmonic minor, since it is clearly resolving on D# at the end.
EDIT: I originally said F, but the song is resolving on D# on the last phrase.
Thank you kindly, I was aware of the minor scales, haven't yet learned the harmonic ones. The raised 7th is probably where I got screwed up, I can work out majors and minors. Thank you again!
