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Blank Instrument Pwnage Posted: 2011-12-06 23:03  (Last Edited: 2011-12-07 01:35) Reply | Quote
yucca70

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#27122
I got bored.

And this is probably my first half decent song containing only one instrument.

Hope you enjoy it.

Edit- looped it

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Posted: 2011-12-07 02:12 Reply | Quote
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#27128
I think dumb restrictions like "one instrument" are just as stupid as coding ASM by using hex. You still have the volume command and duty command, and still do other effects, so you're doing the exact same thing, but only without convenience features to automatically apply them.

Cool song by the way.

Posted: 2011-12-07 02:18 Reply | Quote
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[quote=Dwedit]I think dumb restrictions like "one instrument" are just as stupid as coding ASM by using hex. You still have the volume command and duty command, and still do other effects, so you're doing the exact same thing, but only without convenience features to automatically apply them.[/quote]

You know something? I agree with you. If you want to use one blank instrument, you might as well do the shit at 900bpm.

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Posted: 2011-12-07 02:33 Reply | Quote
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#27132
450bpm's plenty fast enough for single instrument.

Other than a lot of typing in the volume channel, it's not so bad to work with.

Posted: 2011-12-07 02:37 Reply | Quote
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[quote=Raijin]If you want to use one blank instrument, you might as well do the shit at 900bpm.[/quote]

inb4NSFImport

At least yucca70 didn't just compose his own NSF, imported it & posted the output; his lack of high speed shows me that he made the effort at his own pace legitimately (& it sounds pretty good).

By the way, we can't all be like the pros.

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Posted: 2011-12-07 03:00 Reply | Quote
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[quote=TechEmporium][quote=Raijin]If you want to use one blank instrument, you might as well do the shit at 900bpm.[/quote]

inb4NSFImport

At least yucca70 didn't just compose his own NSF, imported it & posted the output; his lack of high speed shows me that he made the effort at his own pace legitimately (& it sounds pretty good).

By the way, we can't all be like the pros.[/quote]
I didn't try to be pro, it just happened.

I always thought 900bpm was way to fast to make a good song

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Posted: 2011-12-07 03:55 Reply | Quote
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[quote=TechEmporium][quote=Raijin]If you want to use one blank instrument, you might as well do the shit at 900bpm.[/quote]

inb4NSFImport

At least yucca70 didn't just compose his own NSF, imported it & posted the output; his lack of high speed shows me that he made the effort at his own pace legitimately (& it sounds pretty good).

By the way, we can't all be like the pros.[/quote]

I've done something at 900bpm before and I'm far from "pro". Once you do it once, you realize how easy 900bpm really is, AND it allows far more variety, lack of Fxx spam and many other wacky sideshows. But everytime someone does something at 900bpm, they always get asked "LOL U DID DIS WIT TEH EN ES EF MPORTR? =DDDDDDDDDD"

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Posted: 2011-12-07 08:22 Reply | Quote
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#27142
oh neat, this one is pretty cool actually. nice use of effects!

however, if you're tracking with only a blank instrument, especially at a higher bpm like 450, you're going to have to come up with some really good volume control, of which this module lacks, to be blunt.

with no attack in the instrument, you're really going to have to keep in mind what is going to be jarring to the listener, and having leads sustaining at the 12 - 15 volume range, it's going to overpower everything, and cause a lot of discomfort to the ear.

remember, it isn't a good idea to try and mask out portions of your song you aren't 100% stable about with overpowering volume registers.

that said, i really liked the first few frames of this. really clean sounding duty cycling, and very strong bass&pcm action.

keep at it!

Posted: 2011-12-07 12:54 Reply | Quote
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I think you're right, sounds a lot better with volume control, thanks.

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Posted: 2011-12-07 21:52 Reply | Quote
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[quote=Raijin][quote=Dwedit]I think dumb restrictions like "one instrument" are just as stupid as coding ASM by using hex. You still have the volume command and duty command, and still do other effects, so you're doing the exact same thing, but only without convenience features to automatically apply them.[/quote]

You know something? I agree with you. If you want to use one blank instrument, you might as well do the shit at 900bpm.[/quote]
Meh, it's composition style. And it helps keep the 60hz nature of the 2A03 in mind.

Posted: 2011-12-07 23:30 Reply | Quote
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oh there we go, sounds much better

sometimes this almost reminds me of something outta cave story, actually

Posted: 2011-12-08 08:14 Reply | Quote
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[quote=Raijin]If you want to use one blank instrument, you might as well do the shit at 900bpm.[/quote]
[quote=TechEmporium]By the way, we can't all be like the pros.[/quote]
Shouldn't the knowledge/ability to manually reproduce instrument macros with the volume/effect columns at high speeds be a prerequisite to being considered a "pro?"

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Posted: 2011-12-08 14:15  (Last Edited: 2011-12-08 14:16) Reply | Quote
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#27164
I only really use more instruments if it's necessary or otherwise time-consuming to do whatever it is using volumes. I have quite a few songs that are only one or two instruments because I never really saw a need to use more. Another weird thing I tend to do is never use more than one FX column. I think I've used more than one on one song, and it was to make letters in FT Note that I'm not talking about 900BPM composition here - while it has its place for a few things out of necessity (ask chibitech and shnabubula), 900BPM composing is in many cases unnecessary.

On another note, changing your composition environment can definitely be productive in my experience - it forces you to think of new ways to come up with how to do things, and it can alter your compositional style a bit.

Also yucca70 your song sounds pretty good- I feel like it would make great dungeon music.

Posted: 2011-12-09 05:04 Reply | Quote
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[quote=Necrophageon][quote=Raijin]If you want to use one blank instrument, you might as well do the shit at 900bpm.[/quote]
[quote=TechEmporium]By the way, we can't all be like the pros.[/quote]
Shouldn't the knowledge/ability to manually reproduce instrument macros with the volume/effect columns at high speeds be a prerequisite to being considered a "pro?"[/quote]

Knowledge & ability to do both create the actual instruments & to replicate their sound without instrument settings is what I'd define as being professional. You can simply create any instrument; even a complete idiot can do that. But, it takes a lot to actually understand how FamiTracker (& an actual NES) works; it's one thing to create a complex instrument & it's another to replicate it with nothing but the volume & effect columns. As long as you can do either or both effectively, then you'd be considered a pro.

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Posted: 2011-12-09 05:22 Reply | Quote
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[url=http://famitracker.shoodot.net/forum/posts.php?id=2658&highlight=bridge]By that logic, I guess I must be pro then.

Although it still doesn't seem like a big deal to me =\

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