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i inproved... a bit. Posted: 2011-11-10 04:26 Reply | Quote
bomono

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yah. -_- hava lot of stuff i will post seperately, but this post is for the song i made, yah im back, ive inproved, ive listened to songs, ive done wut u told me 2. :D *prepares for bashing*

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Posted: 2011-11-10 04:41  (Last Edited: 2011-11-10 04:45) Reply | Quote
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You might want to get rid of the "C D E F G F E D" parts, they make it sound noobish.

Also, it sounds like the final boss theme from Pokemon Trading Card Game. (Track #5 of the GBS file) [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucQ6rLeRxyg]Youtube Link

Posted: 2011-11-10 04:42  (Last Edited: 2011-11-10 04:49) Reply | Quote
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yah i was questioning those part myself... i will remove them when i have the will to do so :D

edit: you mean the UNbareble high triangle, or the F-B sound's in the square channels?

Edit:edit: i just realised... this is TO GODAMN CLOSE to MT.itoi from mother 1, and the indigo plate... or i have a bad memory.

edit:edit:edit: NO dont even conpare my wannabe music, to the composer's of pokemon... just dont... and i dont hear the resembince whatsoever...

Exuse my bad spelling, im too lazy to care.

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Posted: 2011-11-10 04:52 Reply | Quote
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I mean the whole motif. Any time it plays the first 5 notes of a C-major scale back and forth again is just really lame. Maybe the 8-note "arabic-style" scale would be better, that's "C C# E F G A# B C", it was good enough for The Offspring in "Come Out and Play", try it here. Transpose it to the key of your choice.

Also, C D E F G isn't a very good starting note. How about repeating a "F# G A# B C# B A# G" pattern instead?

Posted: 2011-11-10 04:58  (Last Edited: 2011-11-10 05:11) Reply | Quote
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#25617
thanks for the feedblack and also... HELPFULL FEEDBACK IN THE FAMITRACKER FORUMS?

there was a url here but i unfortuately can make it work so insted...
INPOSSIBRU

edit: errrrmmm not to sound like a dumb*** but im confused on the f# keys, how can i make the c/f comination work, and still keep the same sound using # keys becuse i do it like this
C D E F E D
F G A B A G

but i cant figure out how to make that work using the keys you gave me... sorry for my stupidity :D

i think there is another song that uses the c-g cord proggresion properly...
and i cant use dang url's never work properly for me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MtkFQWXyAU&feature=related

:p 4th fav boss theme ever

i also will refain from posting anything, that i do not think is up to par with the standers, so in otherwords i will rarely post.

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Posted: 2011-11-10 05:15  (Last Edited: 2011-11-10 05:19) Reply | Quote
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#25618
You type out "gbjmlmjb" on your keyboard. That's F#, G, A#, B, C#, B, A#, G

I suggest accompanying it with "C# D F# G A# G F# D..." in square 1. Typed as "sxgbjbgx..."

Famitracker Keyboard control is just like a piano, the black keys are above and to the right of the white keys.

The white keys are "ZXCVBNM<>" for "CDEFGABCD" The black keys are "SD GHJ L;" for C#, D#, F#, G#, A#, C#, D#. There is nothing between the gaps in the black keys because each half-step/semitone is 1/12th of a scale, there's nothing that could fit in there.

Posted: 2011-11-10 05:20 Reply | Quote
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help appriciated, and if u need me im going to atempt to cover metel STORM's soundtrack NOT metal slug metal STORM..

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Posted: 2011-11-10 06:50 Reply | Quote
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I was liking it until frame 04. It could use a change of harmony or texture right there, but that one isn't working very well. Maybe it's time to introduce a melody of some sort, or do something. I'm not sure what. Maybe this.


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Posted: 2011-11-10 16:13 Reply | Quote
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*slams keyboard on desk* ummm thanks, but now i feel like im ages away from getting it, down but thanks, im sure i will use it in the megaman romhack im making 0_0... i also realise my song lacks any development... so yah i will take not of that from now on... and please no one post on this anymore.

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Posted: 2011-11-10 17:29 Reply | Quote
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I'm sorry, I was bored and sleepy when I wrote that. This post will be more helpful, I hope.


Frames 00-03 establish a key/mode/scale/harmony that you should continue. At 04 you're introducing something different (C D E F G). Juxtaposing disparate harmonies like this can work sometimes, but this is a difficult thing to make effective. I would suggest you try to make them work together instead.

So, what's your scale/harmony? Well, you've got four dyads in a repeating pattern:
F#/C#
G/D
F#/C#
F/C

This works fine, but when you write your next lines at 04 try to write something that works with these instead of against them. Listen to the change I have made from 04-07, simply by replacing Fs with F#, Cs with C# so that they don't clash with your F#/C# dyad.

08 is fine as a bit of contrast, but again I'm replacing F/C with F#/C# so that it will feel more like a continuation of your previous harmony.

At 0F you start using an instrument with a pitch bend built in (04), but it's not even over the range of the instrument so you can't tune it. I would suggest using Qxx/Rxx to get a more precise effect that you can tune. (I've replaced that with a flat instrument 09 for now).

By the time we get to frame 13, I think the harmony has been much better established. So it's much more acceptable to have a significant change here. So, at this point I start leaving the F/C alone since there's nothing else in the pattern conflicting with it.

I added a second half to the Square 2 melody at 14; the repeat seemed bland. At 17 and 18, I add a tiny resolution to the end of your strong held dissonances, because I didn't feel like it was working out as-is; at that point in the tune it's not quite strong enough to stick its neck out like that. However when we get to 19 and 20 the other squares have picked it up really strong and with that wide vibrato, I think it's fine to leave that alone.


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Posted: 2011-11-10 17:42 Reply | Quote
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Kinda reminds me of Pokey Means Business at some parts. Definitely not your worst, bomono.

Posted: 2011-11-10 18:53 Reply | Quote
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[quote=bomono]im sure i will use it in the megaman romhack im making[/quote]

lol how will you get vrc6 into a mega man rom?

not bad, except for the random parts that are in C major which sounds really dissonant/weird.

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Posted: 2011-11-11 02:08  (Last Edited: 2011-11-11 02:24) Reply | Quote
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So far, bomono, you're i[u][b]m[/b][/u]proving. It's a bit rough in some places, so I'd highly recommend that you learn a thing or two from rainwarrior (& anyone else who gives you a little hint on your songs). Basically, you need to work more on maintaining the same key that you started with; that's one of several problems that beginners have with harmony (another being unbalanced discord).

Mind you, you still didn't improve on your English.

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Posted: 2011-11-11 04:49 Reply | Quote
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You're improving.

Might not wanna stop in the area you're in though...

Tech... mixing up bomono and oh mah gahd_pastry here? His enlish look fine me. No problems totally.

Posted: 2011-11-11 05:03 Reply | Quote
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Way to fail, kinkinkijkin; it looks like you need to "inprove" on your reading skills. "hava" nice day, because "ive" said "wut" I needed "2" say up here. :P </troll>

Seriously, dude... (*facepalm*)

But yeah; the song is an improvement; a good step forward.

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