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While I'm totally against this theory, I think it makes sense in some ways, and it got me thinking. Would it be possible to make a random music generator?
So I tried an experiment:
- Press a random key on the keyboard 4 times. These notes will be the bass (the triangle channel)
- Now find all the notes that sound good with this key, and bang on them randomly while pressing the down arrow at random moments to skip a beat. (the square channel)
- Copy all the notes once to the second half of the measure.
- Press random keys + down arrow in the noise chanel, and copy it a bunch of times.
- Repeat the process one more time for the second part of the song.
- See if it's even listenable.
So I came out with this result. Note there are 2 songs in the file, but the second one didn't really come out as good...
I'm not aware of anyone trying to do this before, but maybe I just missed something. I think it would be interesting to develop a program that could actually spit out somewhat interesting songs.
EDIT: Oh wait, did I post this in the wrong subforum? Sorry if I did, I'm not sure where it goes...
Well, Im sure with some tweaking as to exactly what it would do, perhaps figuring out a countermelody by checking the main and bass notes to make something that would sound good, it would be quite possible. Kudos to your brain for the thinking of the idea.
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Hey that's cool. I wonder if it can create music without any input from a human at all now? Although it probably would only create similar sounding songs...
I'm sorry, but that's not "math music", KuroBit, that's simply random music. It has nothing to do with the definition of "mathematical music".
Some Mozart songs have a fractal structure, the same to Bach and Beethoven. They use some structures that can be explained using calculus. Pure math songs.
[quote=Delek]I'm sorry, but that's not "math music", KuroBit, that's simply random music. It has nothing to do with the definition of "mathematical music".[/quote]
When people say music is mathematical (which is what the thread is about), they're not talking about specific pieces by Bach and Mozart, they're talking about all music. This thread never claimed to be about "math music", whatever that might be.
And all music does have a basis in mathematics. For example, the twelve-tone scale that is universally used today is built upon simple ratios. For example, the frequency ratio of G to C is 3:2. Rhythm is also built upon ratios (e.g. four beats to a bar, plus the division of quarter notes into eighth notes, etc.). You can't have music without some kind of math, though it's usually the sort of math that can be done intuitively and needn't require a mathematical mind.
[quote=Delek]I'm sorry, but that's not "math music", KuroBit, that's simply random music. It has nothing to do with the definition of "mathematical music".
Some Mozart songs have a fractal structure, the same to Bach and Beethoven. They use some structures that can be explained using calculus. Pure math songs.[/quote]
Well indeed my "tests" where really just random, but I meant that I was more trying to develop an actual random music generator. Somewhat random, but using math and certain notes that sound good together during different situations to make listenable music.
I think it would be an interesting idea for say, a randomly developed game. The game would be different for every person who plays it. The big problem with all of this is actually making all of it GOOD.
Btw, all the time I thought that Aphex Twin has a random music generator. I could never understand how he does so many beautiful melodies, and so rare at the same time.
however, autechre is a good example of electronic musicians that create generative music - in fact, some of their later songs were entirely generated by patches which they wrote in max/msp
[quote=Delek]A random music generator is a really good idea...[/quote]
WarioWare DIY.
Although it really is just a collection of premade bars of lead, bass and percussion picked randomly (or even all three lines as a whole) in random key scales.
